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I tried to do anything for them. I told them I was going to do anything in my power. I setup a meeting to let them off the lease.
I just have the feeling this was just a ploy because they found something cheaper. I understand about the smell but there are plenty of complaints about the smell (cigarette and others) on their old place and they stayed there for 4 years.
Do you somehow think it's problematic that they were longtime tenants at another place? Obviously, if they stayed for 4 years, then their likely weren't problems with smoke in their particular unit.
You do get the part you played in his decision making process, right? He wants to leave, you want him out. He says he can not afford to move with the penalties you will impose. You refuse to budge. If he can't afford it, then he can't afford it and he has no choice but to stay despite the serious health concerns your unit poses.
Exactly, My guess is they decided to stay because they couldnt afford the "penalties" you were going to subject them to, not because it got better. Be ready for them to be spiteful for the next year. I think you are going to have a horrible 12 months as a landlord.
Also, while you cannot ask them to leave, you can say something like "As the landlord I will live up to the lease, but I will let you know that if you request to break the lease I will work with you and not penalize you beyond keeping the security." This way they have an out and you technically didn't ask to break the lease. You put them in this position of having to stay due to the financial hardship you've already admitted you would put them in. There's this thing called being civil and just cause the law states you can act a certain way doesn't mean you have to be that way. You chose to be a hard a**. That's your right, but be prepared cause if it were me I'd be the worst tenant in the world for the next year.
Exactly, My guess is they decided to stay because they couldnt afford the "penalties" you were going to subject them to, not because it got better. Be ready for them to be spiteful for the next year. I think you are going to have a horrible 12 months as a landlord.
Also, while you cannot ask them to leave, you can say something like "As the landlord I will live up to the lease, but I will let you know that if you request to break the lease I will work with you and not penalize you beyond keeping the security." This way they have an out and you technically didn't ask to break the lease. You put them in this position of having to stay due to the financial hardship you've already admitted you would put them in. There's this thing called being civil and just cause the law states you can act a certain way doesn't mean you have to be that way. You chose to be a hard a**. That's your right, but be prepared cause if it were me I'd be the worst tenant in the world for the next year.
I never got the opportunity to explain any penalties.
I did not contact the previous landlords. I ran their application thru housery.com and they came back great.
I did read a review about the place they left, that you can hear everything and smell smoke constantly. They were there 4 years and apparently it was never an issue.
So I guess it is an issue in my condo. But not in the previous one.
I have a feeling these people sue or try to sue a lot of people. They are like roaches who don't like the light of reality. That's why they cancelled your meeting today. Light would be shined on what they prefer to do.
Be careful of anything they could film or record and doctor so as to say you are prejudiced against any of the protected classes they may belong to or may pretend they belong to and then have grounds to sue you. Keep notes and records, pix, whatever yourself.
I have a feeling these people sue or try to sue a lot of people. They are like roaches who don't like the light of reality. That's why they cancelled your meeting today. Light would be shined on what they prefer to do.
Be careful of anything they could film or record and doctor so as to say you are prejudiced against any of the protected classes they may belong to or may pretend they belong to and then have grounds to sue you. Keep notes and records, pix, whatever yourself.
I feel the same way. If they are so concerned about the smoking, come to the meeting and let the attorneys talk and come to a middle ground. But they did not even try. It was just threats from the start.
How about first sealing up your unit so it doesn't fill up with cigarette smoke? How old is this building? Older buildings tend to have lots of defects and small cracks throughout. It is because of situations like yours where it makes me leery of buying a condo unit and becoming a landlord. It could cause a ton of headache.
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Originally Posted by flower2014
I tried to do anything for them. I told them I was going to do anything in my power. I setup a meeting to let them off the lease.
I just have the feeling this was just a ploy because they found something cheaper. I understand about the smell but there are plenty of complaints about the smell (cigarette and others) on their old place and they stayed there for 4 years.
I want what the law says I am entitled to. The man is a looney. If he wants to leave he can pay a penalty and go
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I do not understand this man. He is in our opinion bipolar and a bully. But now I cannot ask him to leave. if he comes and says again I want to break the lease then I will cross that bridge when I get there.
So you don't want him to stay, but if he wants to leave then you want him to pay a penalty??
I understand -- but at some point, you are cutting off your nose to spite your face.
Is it more important that he be held liable than it is for you to find an amiable tenant? How much is it worth to you?
Legal fees, lawsuits, counter suits . . . that will quickly exceed any losses you might encounter getting rid of this guy and getting another tenant in place.
Plus, the stress alone isn't worth it. He's a loon, and if he's this miserable NOW, he's only going to get worse.
So you don't want him to stay, but if he wants to leave then you want him to pay a penalty??
Yeah, that makes sense.
I dont want him to stay. He wants to stay.
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