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Old 10-10-2009, 10:48 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Ok I just saw that my dream house has had the price reduced from 475K to 349K. It is a bank owned property that has been on the market almost one year. 349K is a great price but still more than I want to spend. 300K is absolute tops. If it weren't a foreclosure, I wouldn't consider it, but since it is, would it be ridiculous to offer 280K? It sold in 2006 for 758K. The land alone is really worth the asking price (232,000 sq. ft.) as it averages around 75-100k/acre. It's a fixer upper but even at 349K it works out to only $95/ sq./ft (approx. 4000 sq. ft) and the average in the area is $200/ sq. ft. Would a bank even consider such a low ball offer?
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Old 10-10-2009, 11:48 PM
 
Location: Dallas/Fort Worth, Texas
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Considering it's an REO, you are not hurting anyone's feeling by bidding low. So go for it!!

Naima
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Old 10-11-2009, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Just south of Denver since 1989
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I would go look at it with an inspector, list the defects in your ofer, get good comps and offer as close to fair market value as you can.
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Old 10-11-2009, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Ok I just saw that my dream house has had the price reduced from 475K to 349K. It is a bank owned property that has been on the market almost one year. 349K is a great price butstill more than I want to spend. 300K is absolute tops. If it weren't a foreclosure, I wouldn't consider it, but since it is, would it be ridiculous to offer 280K? It sold in 2006 for 758K. The land alone is really worth the asking price (232,000 sq. ft.) as it averages around 75-100k/acre. It's a fixer upper but even at 349K it works out to only $95/ sq./ft (approx. 4000 sq. ft) and the average in the area is $200/ sq. ft. Would a bank even consider such a low ball offer?
What you want to spend has no bearing on what the bank will accept, just as what a seller wants/ needs has no bearing on what the market will pay.

If you think this could be a steal of a deal, might not others, think so too?

If you are a cash buyer and able to close quickly, the bank is probably more likely to work your offer.

As an aside, how recent are the comps you are using to determine the value of the land?
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Old 10-11-2009, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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It's a bank...all they can say is no. I also suggest a good inspection. Has it been under contract in the year on the market? Does the listing agent have an inspection from another buyer that you can at least review to see what major hidden problems there may be.

That's a heck of a deal for you if you can pick it up for under $300k!
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Old 10-11-2009, 05:07 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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What you want to spend has no bearing on what the bank will accept, just as what a seller wants/ needs has no bearing on what the market will pay.

If you think this could be a steal of a deal, might not others, think so too?

If you are a cash buyer and able to close quickly, the bank is probably more likely to work your offer.

As an aside, how recent are the comps you are using to determine the value of the land?
You're right. What I really should have said was has anyone seen a bank accept such a lowball offer? They've already come down 100K to 349K and the 2008-9 assessors record shows an actual value of $943,800. One reason I think it hasn't sold is that it is an architectural style (50's modern) that isn't that popular in the mountains ("rustic" houses are more popular and I hate those). I was basing the land value on comparable asking prices in the area but I haven't compared it to actual land sales yet. Thanks!
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Old 10-11-2009, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
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no telling what the bank will do. Depends on the bank, location, comps, and if the assett manager woke up on the wrong side of the bed : ) Only way to tell is to offer. First thing I would want to know? are there any other offers/bids on the house currently? if there are, the bank lowered to get INTEREST (like yours) and are expecting a bidding war. happening here alot right now.

shelly
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Old 10-11-2009, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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I was basing the land value on comparable asking prices in the area but I haven't compared it to actual land sales yet. Thanks!
Get comps for comparable closed sales, the more recent the better. Then compare them to the assessor's records to see the difference.

This will give you a better idea if this is a good deal or not.
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Old 10-12-2009, 06:53 AM
 
Location: Connecticut
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I could have sworn I replied to this thread yesterday. Anyway, there was a very nice remodeled antique farmhouse here that had gone into foreclosure (our area has very few of these). The house had been on the market for months at around $575,000. It went to auction and a woman who attended on whim thinking that it would never be in her price range got the house for $255,000. My point is that it does happen so why not go for it. Jay
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Old 10-12-2009, 08:24 AM
 
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Lowballs DO work (after you go through rounds of negotiating), I've seen it happen several times. Don't let your realtor discourage you from lowballing.
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