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Like most of you, they are simple and predictable and follow the laws of nature.
Human beings, and their natures, aren't simple and predictable -- that's why psychology is such a complicated area of study.
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Originally Posted by Trimac20
Now here's to the exceptions who are going against nature!
What is this going against nature you speak of? Not to get into theological debate or discussions, but you mean, like, original sin? Some part of me that's intrinsically flawed, that I must defy?
Experiences cost money, LK, some of them A LOT of money! For instance, you wouldn't be buying guitar after guitar for fun if you were flipping burgers. You wouldn't be going to $200+ concerts, either.
Well that brings up another twist to the debate. Decisions and give and take. Trade off. Sacrifice and the realization that most of us can't have it all. I wouldn't be buying guitars and stuff I enjoy if I had a wife and kids. If I had a wife and kids I would be focusing more on money to support them and taking even more time away from what I like to do which would leave me a unhappy man except for the fact that I would have joy in being a dad. I do grasp the concept of joy in being a parent and that is something I have sacrificed.
As of now, I have marketable skill that allows me to be reasonably financially good and free for myself and my own needs. But to support a family and live well off in financial terms like in the 100k salary range? no. Guitar is my real passion, but it is a hard, next to impossible thing to make a decent living off that. Great guitar players are a dime a dozen and I am not great, competition is fierce. So I do what I have to do to live decent for myself. However my real joy in life is continuing to become better as a personal goal.
But I am not going to chase a job just for money that will leave me NO free time to do what I want. I try to find balance.....try. I know it is in myself that if I decided, I could reach the goal of having a career making 100k a year or more (I don't make near that that now) and in certain parts of America that sum is considered doing well above average. Maybe in California or NY not so much. But it would probably be doing something I have no interest in other than a fat paycheck. Because as a general rule, any career that pays outstandingly good requires full dedication and time (long hours) to it. Not to mention conformity to society in image.
I understand being poor, or having no money after bills and the stress, been there and got out of it. I understand not wanting to be in a relationship were everything is a financial struggle. But to put up with a chick who is a pain, just because she is hot, or to use a guys salary as the main deciding factor just because life will be financially cozy is self defeating after the temporary perk wears off.
And I have to admit my ego gets bruised by the topic. It is one thing if a female just doesn't find me attractive because of looks or personality...so be it, sucks but so be it. But it peeves me to think that she would find me hot, have common interests and I have more pluses than minus in her eye but to right me off as a deal breaker because I don't make real good money or enough whatever that sum is to her.
I tell a lot about myself on the forum but one thing I'll never tell is what I do for the main paycheck. But I will say that my day job is something that brings me into contact with customers that generally are well off/wealthy. And most of the female customers are more than average beauty wise because frankly their hubby is probably a doctor, lawyer or well off businessman. And I look at those females and wonder what if, what if their hubby wasn't rolling in doe would they be with them. I wonder how many of them actually love their husband , I am sure some may. But I am sure a good portion traded off in life.
It is true, go to a upscale neighborhood, or mall, or upscale car dealership or where ever the rich might amass and people specially women are more "society pretty". But I wonder how many are really happy as a person. That goes for the guys too, how many are really happy knowing their wife doesn't really love them. They are all getting their "piece" but do they have peace?
BTW Sierra I tie and slick my hair at work, I am only a crazed looking rocker in my free time.
The rich guy might make you jump through hoops to get your sugar. The pretty woman will draw too much unwanted attention from other guys. The good-looking guy is vain. The poor guy loves you, but doesn't have a circular vessel to void in.
Upon reflection, I've never met a perfectly-matched couple...
You sound like one of my ex-boyfriend's. He thought I was pretty, but shallow "like Paris Hilton". If I had been shallow, I never would have dated him in the first place. So I told him: Not all pretty women are shallow, and not all unattractive women are saints. Same thing with men, not all poor men will love me and treat me right.And not all hard-working, or wealthy, or whatever you want to call them, men are going to treat me badly.
BTW Sierra I tie and slick my hair at work, I am only a crazed looking rocker in my free time.
I knew you must be doing porn for a living - hair must get in the way! But then you should be making more...
Today I read a spread about Tommy Hilfiger's life. I always thought he was gay for some reason. Turned out the dude is straight. Whether he has doubts or not, that's what he has - http://theirearth.com/uploads/news/1...010_monaco.jpg . Who says women don't like shorter men?!
I knew you must be doing porn for a living - hair must get in the way! But then you should be making more...
Haha no that is only one of those things that sorta in the back of my mind is "kinda wish". Besides keeping a money making successful website going with weekly updates is a hard business to do, so I was told anyway.
Nah, my passions in life I just do for personal fulfillment it seems.
Nah my hair only gets in the way sometimes when I eat, or like tonight it got wrapped around my shirt button somehow. Or maybe you might get my hair in your face if I was on top giving you a kiss....or something. It smells good though, I use Aussie.
You know I used to believe what is inside person, personality, etc is only thing that really mattered in relationships. I naively thought people wouldn't so easily attracted to something superficial like money. In last year or so I have come to realize how wrong I was.
First thing that happened is related to my friend's girlfriend. He was dating this hot blond he met at bar and thought things were pretty serious. However, she left him for an old man with a lot of money. She is marrying the old guy at a big wedding in Hawaii this month. Guess she was bar to find rich guy and my friend was just her plaything. My friend is still quite depressed about it and I am also sad about this situation.
Second there was this one co worker I never figured out he got cute girls. He really looked ugly (bad teeth, half bald, etc) and was 40+ years old. Yet he managed to get 20 year old girls around my age. He got almost a new girl or two every week! In fact, I swear he had an arrogant personality. In our holiday party he shouted at his lasted girl that he would dump her the moment she got even a bit fatter. Most people were shocked he dared to say that in public and the girl wasn't happy at all. Anyhow, I finally figured out he picked up these girl at some high end private club. Supposedly it costs $500+ per month for men, but basically free for girls. He would just show up there dressed nice and acting rich to pick up new girls as needed!
Now I am not saying money will buy you true love or even love at all. But what it can at least to do is get a hot girl even if you lacking a lot in other departments. Of course, there are many nice girl who aren't attracted to money. However, I have come to the conclusion there are just as many hot gold diggers who chase after money.
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My friend is still quite depressed about it and I am also sad about this situation. 
Anyhow, I finally figured out he picked up these girl at some high end private club. Supposedly it costs $500+ per month for men, but basically free for girls. He would just show up there dressed nice and acting rich to pick up new girls as needed!
