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View Poll Results: Do White males have an advantage when it comes to dating and marrying out?
yes 28 47.46%
no 31 52.54%
Voters: 59. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-19-2011, 07:48 AM
 
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The cold hard truth is that a lot of black men have a reputation for being players and dead beat dad's. Not just in this country but all around the globe. Is it fair, nope. But it is out there, and it is one of the biggest reasons they have more challenges when trying to date interracially. In all cultures the darker skinned population is typically looked down upon, whether it's Asians, Hispanics, or Italians.

I still believe that white guys have just as difficult a time dating certain races. If a white guy wants to date black women he'll actually have a tougher time than a black guy trying to date a white girl. There are a lot more black men/white women couples than there are white men/black women.

The guys who like to blame race as the primary reason they can't get a date are the same guys who can't get dates within their own race. They just want something or someone else to blame for their lack of dating success. I've seen at least a half dozen threads on this site alone from whiny Indian guys who complain that white women don't want them. Truth is, the beautiful Indian women probably don't want them either. Those same white women who reject them are also rejecting the white guys they aren't attracted to either. A lot of guys set their sights too high, so when an average looking black man is chasing a hot white woman and can't score, he immediately dismisses the rejection as a race issue.

 
Old 05-19-2011, 09:51 AM
 
Location: USA
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The cold hard truth is that a lot of black men have a reputation for being players and dead beat dad's. Not just in this country but all around the globe. Is it fair, nope. But it is out there, and it is one of the biggest reasons they have more challenges when trying to date interracially. In all cultures the darker skinned population is typically looked down upon, whether it's Asians, Hispanics, or Italians.

I still believe that white guys have just as difficult a time dating certain races. If a white guy wants to date black women he'll actually have a tougher time than a black guy trying to date a white girl. There are a lot more black men/white women couples than there are white men/black women.

The guys who like to blame race as the primary reason they can't get a date are the same guys who can't get dates within their own race. They just want something or someone else to blame for their lack of dating success. I've seen at least a half dozen threads on this site alone from whiny Indian guys who complain that white women don't want them. Truth is, the beautiful Indian women probably don't want them either. Those same white women who reject them are also rejecting the white guys they aren't attracted to either. A lot of guys set their sights too high, so when an average looking black man is chasing a hot white woman and can't score, he immediately dismisses the rejection as a race issue.
Good points. Unattractive people or people with issues are going to have a harder time overall with attracting a mates in all races.
 
Old 05-19-2011, 11:04 AM
 
Location: 20 years from now
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I have to say yes on this. I hate having racial debates but from what I've have seen from the interaction from my White friends and their counterparts, it's generally easier-a lot easier in short-for White males to get women from other races then it is for men from other races to get women outside their race; even their own sometimes.

Like the OP mentioned, White men are often looked at a lot of times by women of other races as royalty, a security blanket financially, a ticket to the upper echelons and hierarchical status of society-which makes them feel more socially accepted. I know this first hand because I have my female friends who are of all races-Hispanic, Asian, Black, Arabic and even White ladies themselves. Not all but a lot of my non-White female friends/acquaintances of other races slobber over almost any White guy that looks halfway decent to them. Some of them will mess and have a one night stand with a non-White guy but they won't bother trying to pursue a relationship with them. They openly admit of dreaming of having an "All American" or "Dreamy sexy European" White guy. Of course, not all the non-White women I know are like that and plenty of them are open to men of other races.

As for my White male friends that I know, some of them have admitted to me it's a lot easier for them to get a lady from outside their race and some of them seem oblivious that the color of their skin helps with getting women outside their race. I've been told that they usually target sometimes women out their race in a social setting because it's easier for them to approach and socialize since they appear "interesting" to women of the outside race sometimes. I have to say, I seen this with my own eyes. That's not to say that they don't have more than the color of their skin that's attractive, of course some of them have charisma, personality, and other attributes that can be attractive to any other lady of other races. Wanted to point that out before (White) people flip on me.

As for me being Hispanic/Latino (whatever you wish to say) and Arabic, I have to say it's a toss up but it's definitely not as easy for me as it is for my White counterparts to get women of any ethnicity even the women within my ethnicity. I sometimes come across as "ethnically ambiguous" which can be an attraction to some ladies and for some ladies, it's a no-no. For the most part I would say most ladies seem to find me handsome and I have a good personality and qualities to go along with it but I can tell that it's sometimes hell for me to get women outside of my race if I tried.

Now, I think Black guys sometimes have the hardest being accepted of any other race. For too often I'll hear my White, Hispanic, Asian lady friends say "I'm not racist but I just wouldn't date a Black guy". I understand you're attracted to what you're attracted to but I feel that it's mostly out of some sort of not having enough security with Black men and I know part of is just that they let the overly negative stereotypes get in the way.

As time progresses I think interracial dating has become more accepting, or at least I would like to think. I have dated ladies of the Korean, Chinese, Italian, Indian and German/Norwegian race and I seem to attract women of other races because I seem "exotic" to them sometimes. In short, I still definitely think it's harder for me and a lot easier for my White friends to get women though. Hopefully this changes in due time
I use to actually believe this too, until I began to notice that I've never witnessed a woman of another race state that they weren't interested in Latino men, many of whom are just as often known or painted as being less financially secure and promiscuis. I've found that people (both men and women) can be extremely lenient towards someone of the opposite gender who meets thier physical requirements. Simly put, I think a lot of these men simply do not fit the ideal characteristics that these women have envisioned for themselves. And that's not a knock on them, because we all do it. I've come across numerous women who were either too big, or of another race that I wasn't particularly attracted to who seemed like grade A people, but the interest just wasn't there.
 
Old 05-19-2011, 12:56 PM
 
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In the US that is.

Usually all stereotypes of White males are positive. In movies they are the Prince Charmings, the Superheros, the hard working doctors, the bright scientists, and the cool guys. Women see them as being "safe" and such. Girls from other backgrounds assume they are rich and view them as royalty.

I am of South Asian descent myself and I have been told from family members that usually if a South Asian woman does not marry a guy from her own background, she would marry a White guy because they are viewed as royalty.

I want to hear your experiences with this.

If the mod is not okay with this thread, then please lock and delete.
Umm, overall, I would say YES. But it also depends on the women. I don't believe in dating white guys just to date them. To me, white guys are held to the same standards as black guys that I would consider dating. Example: I like attractive black guys, so there's no way that I would date an unattractive white guy just because of his race, but I know plenty of black girls who would do so because of some of the the sterotypes listed above.
 
Old 05-19-2011, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Bayou City
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Just Asians? I think that's putting it pretty lightly. I'd say Asians, Indians, Arabs (both muslim and Christian), Other Middle Easterners (Persians, Turks etc), Native Americans, and Latinos of all descents including whites of various ethnicities. That's a pretty big pool if you ask me. And I think that if a woman of any of the races above brought home a white guy, she can pretty be much rest assured that he will face little if any animosity. However all things being equal--if it were a black guy, doubters and haters of all kinds would make their opnions known immediately before they even met the guy. I have rarely if ever have witnessed a woman of another race threateneted to be cut off entirely just for being with a white guy. A black guy though? Like I said, it's 50/50...sometimes 30/70 working against him (assuming he's not rich or famous).

And I'm not saying that backs aren't apprenhensive about their children marrying whites, be they male or female, what I am saying is that I don't think that families and friends of non-black partners would be as accepting or as lenient with a black guy as they would with a white guy. As I mentioned before, the priveleges of being "white" are pretty consistent amongst all avenues--sex love and marriage just happen to be what this topic is about

As far as black men's portrayal within favorable stereotypes--it's a double edged sword. Sure favorable steretypes including being sexually aggressive, athletic and musical--then yeah with certain women is does give you an added advantage, but with that comes the idea that this is ALL you are capeable of, even to the point that people are shocked that you don't fit within any of them. A white guy though? They're pretty much chameleons, they can fit into anything without much flak or surprise. People tend to judge them individually. Asians and Indians I will agree with you though--I think they have it the toughest breaking into the more positive stereotypes of masculinity.
Dead on!

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I might also add that the media's continued overall reluctance to portray black male sexuality in a mainstream and non-subversive light is also evidence of the not-so-favorable consequences of the "favorable" stereotypes foisted upon black men in media. Movies and television will find no shortage of white leads routinely having their way with women of all ethnicities, including black women.

I am particularly reminded of the film The Last King of Scotland for instance, wherein James McAvoy's character (the 'good guy' of course) engages in a very explicit sexual encounter with the wife of the Ugandan dictator, played by a stunning Kerry Washington. The very same scene with the races reversed, outside of downright pornography, would simply be unheard of. Monster's Ball is another good example. A scruffy Billy Bob can have hot, no-holds barred steamy summer dog sex with Halle Berry but pairing a white woman up with even someone as dashing as Will Smith or Denzel is somehow "problematic."

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Old 05-19-2011, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Bayou City
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Originally Posted by Opsimathia View Post
I voted no. I do however notice that people of a different race are more hesitant to hit on me as a white female. The funniest insecure one was a black doctor. He was "afraid" i would reject him because of his race. I was like "wtf" YOU ARE HOT AND A DOCTOR! LOL! I told him I am rejecting him because I was seeing someone else and hooked him up with a friend. Its all in your heads boys!
Many underestimate the extent to which merely being black poses a liability in the dating market. While the good doctor's socioeconomic status may compensate for some of this liability, at the end of the day he is still a black man who is up against the (almost religious) dedication many women have to maintaining their "racial" ideal in a mate.
 
Old 05-19-2011, 04:05 PM
 
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The cold hard truth is that a lot of black men have a reputation for being players and dead beat dad's. Not just in this country but all around the globe. Is it fair, nope. But it is out there, and it is one of the biggest reasons they have more challenges when trying to date interracially. In all cultures the darker skinned population is typically looked down upon, whether it's Asians, Hispanics, or Italians.

I still believe that white guys have just as difficult a time dating certain races. If a white guy wants to date black women he'll actually have a tougher time than a black guy trying to date a white girl. There are a lot more black men/white women couples than there are white men/black women.

The guys who like to blame race as the primary reason they can't get a date are the same guys who can't get dates within their own race. They just want something or someone else to blame for their lack of dating success. I've seen at least a half dozen threads on this site alone from whiny Indian guys who complain that white women don't want them. Truth is, the beautiful Indian women probably don't want them either. Those same white women who reject them are also rejecting the white guys they aren't attracted to either. A lot of guys set their sights too high, so when an average looking black man is chasing a hot white woman and can't score, he immediately dismisses the rejection as a race issue.
It's not hard for a White guy to get a Black girlfriend in Latin American countries like Cuba or Brazil for example. But than again a lot of the Black women in these countries do not even see themselves as Black, so that could be the reason why they are are more open to interracial dating.
 
Old 05-19-2011, 04:22 PM
 
Location: USA
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Many underestimate the extent to which merely being black poses a liability in the dating market. While the good doctor's socioeconomic status may compensate for some of this liability, at the end of the day he is still a black man who is up against the (almost religious) dedication many women have to maintaining their "racial" ideal in a mate.
I can see some of what your talking about in general but WF and BM were really the first to cross the racial barrier in any great number(I know the WM AF were there too). I do know of many more WF with BM SOs and husbands and kids than the other way around. I also know many more WF that are attracted to BM than BF attracted to WMs. If I go on a date with a black woman we are almost guaranteed to be the only BF/WM couple in the place.

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Old 05-19-2011, 04:24 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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It might be different on the West Coast, but white guys have a definite advantage on the East Coast. If you see a cute Asian girl, there's about a 98 percent chance she'll be on the arm of a white guy.

I know a few Asian girls who have said that their parents preferred that they marry a white man. One even had surgery on her eyelids so she could look less Asian and thus attract a white guy.
 
Old 05-19-2011, 06:29 PM
 
Location: La lune et les étoiles
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Non-Whites who seek out Whites specifically and exclusively for dating/relationships/marriage have an inferiority complex and they usually make it a point to denigrate their own kind in order to deflect their inferiority issues.
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