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Old 07-07-2012, 09:26 AM
 
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Exactly, the 400-pound women who think they are Big, Beautiful Women. I hear this typical BS coming from a lot of American women "Love me for who I am"- Suuuure! There is nothing wrong with them! This society has gone absolutely insane
I wouldn't say we've gone insane, rather we're unrealistic

Again, my experience only...but I've mentioned a few times that I have a few female friends who are not unattractive, but not the hottest thing out there, and they complain non stop about never meeting guys. But what they really mean is "why can't a guy who is incredibly good looking and rich marry me?". I'm seeing someone now, who has many good qualities, but she's also a pain-in-the-ass in so many stereotypical American ways. Again, generally speaking, with non-American women, they are much more straightforward and less "so, what can you do for me?" in terms of their mentality.

Now, us American men aren't perfect either, but now that I think about, so many of my close friends date women who did not grow up with American culture as their main influence.
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Old 07-07-2012, 09:34 AM
 
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Now, us American men aren't perfect either, but now that I think about, so many of my close friends date women who did not grow up with American culture as their main influence.
Code for your friends are looking for more subservient women.
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Old 07-07-2012, 09:37 AM
 
Location: NYC
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We are all unrealistic here in the US, because this is the Age of Entitlement. Men and women are both guilty.

Just the other day I was watching a show in which a fitness trainer started working out with a morbidly obese man. After the obese guy lost his first 20 pounds, his ego got a bit pumped up and he proclaimed without irony, "Once I lose all of this weight I will finally be able to get a really hot girl."

I recently had a discussion here at CD with a man in the south who has been unemployed for almost a year, who kept wondering why he can't get a girlfriend. Why oh why won't a woman look past his unemployment status to date him? Why are women so shallow? By the way, fat chicks need not apply.

There is no just thing as an ugly overweight woman, all are "beautiful".

We all "deserve" to be happy. We are all special. We deserve the beautiful house, the fancy smart phone, the perfect partner, the best job, a great tv. To not hold out for these things is to settle.
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Old 07-07-2012, 10:04 AM
 
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Code for your friends are looking for more subservient women.
This is the normal excuse American women use, that when men look elsewhere, it's because they want 'subservient' women. None of them date 'subservient' women. They are just tired of over-demanding, entitled women.

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We are all unrealistic here in the US, because this is the Age of Entitlement. Men and women are both guilty.

Just the other day I was watching a show in which a fitness trainer started working out with a morbidly obese man. After the obese guy lost his first 20 pounds, his ego got a bit pumped up and he proclaimed without irony, "Once I lose all of this weight I will finally be able to get a really hot girl."

I recently had a discussion here at CD with a man in the south who has been unemployed for almost a year, who kept wondering why he can't get a girlfriend. Why oh why won't a woman look past his unemployment status to date him? Why are women so shallow? By the way, fat chicks need not apply.

There is no just thing as an ugly overweight woman, all are "beautiful".

We all "deserve" to be happy. We are all special. We deserve the beautiful house, the fancy smart phone, the perfect partner, the best job, a great tv. To not hold out for these things is to settle.
Very well said. As I mentioned in another thread, a friend of mine said that the girl that I am seeing is 'a little heavy'...even though he's in terrible shape AND she's not heavy at all (size 4).

So yes, it can go both ways.
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Old 07-07-2012, 10:08 AM
 
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Thread cleaned up and moved to Great Debates. People, please stay on topic and refrain from posting personal attacks. Thanks.
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Old 07-07-2012, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Houston, Tx
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Don't forget those incredibly beautiful Caribbean men.
My family is from the Caribbean, does that count?
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Old 07-07-2012, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Sunshine Coast, QLD
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Wow-some people thanks to the coward who posted a private comment to me calling me me rude!! Nothing rude about expressing an opinion . Guess my post hit a little too close to home for some people. Thanks for proving me and the OP correct. Three guesses as to who the brave soul was that did that.
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Old 07-07-2012, 01:39 PM
 
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What the heck is "American women," anyway? You do realize that this is a country of 300 million + people, right?

In living between New Orleans and New York City I have never met a woman who treat dates like job interviews or is constantly checking off a list of things they want when meeting men. Not once.

Being sexually repressed is the only generalization I would make about American women - or men, for that matter.

I remember way back in high school we did an exchange program with a French school of a similar socio-economic background. They came here first. We were all hanging out at a restaurant and it came to light that many of the French girls were not virgins. The American girls were shocked - and immediately proceeded to giggle uncontrollably and beg for details in hushed tones, to the great amusement of the French.
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Old 07-07-2012, 03:11 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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What the heck is "American women," anyway? You do realize that this is a country of 300 million + people, right?

In living between New Orleans and New York City I have never met a woman who treat dates like job interviews or is constantly checking off a list of things they want when meeting men. Not once.
Thank you for posting this. I'd never heard of this until this thread and the OP article. Nor have I heard of this "what can you bring to the table" attitude. What a weird thing to ask a complete stranger! If guys really are running into these strange dating interview experiences over and over again, their selection process for whom they choose to date is off-base in some way. It's not getting them the results they want.
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Old 07-07-2012, 05:13 PM
 
Location: Houston, Tx
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I see this is back in relationships where it rightfully belongs.
Yeah I'm not sure why it was moved to "great debates"
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