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What if someone texts you to ask if you want to join the crowd at the club, and you're in the middle of cooking dinner? It seems like it's really taking someone for granted to issue last-minute invitations like that. I'm not going to drop what I'm doing and rush out for some guy who can't make advance plans. I had a woman friend who did that, and I broke it off with her eventually. For other reasons as well. But I'm not much of a "spontaneous" invitation person.
Ya, the spontaneous invitation works well if you're not (or never) doing anything.
Hanging out assumes zero risk for all parties. That's all fine and good, but if you like me romantically and all we do is 'hang out' with friends, I'm going to assume you're just a friend.
I've had a bit of Nyquil tonight because of the flu...so I'm not sure if I'm making sense.
Uh, I've hung out with girls before I dated them. 'Hanging out' is the same thing as 'talking' as dating. Similar.
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Originally Posted by mir86
wow..so much offense taken...there must be a lot of the types of men described in the article on this forum then.
Usually the response when someone says something ridiculous.
You say, "I can't. I'm in the middle of cooking dinner. "
Exactly. So if the guy was hoping to see the woman, he loses. So what does he do? Continue issuing last-minute casual invitations until he catches her at a free moment? It doesn't really work.
Hanging out works if it occurs naturally. Like if you have a group you normally get together with to just hang out. And new people join the group, friends of some of the regulars, and you get to knew the new people in the course of your regular hanging-outs. Like "mateship" in Australia (as previously described on the forum). Then, it's not even a matter of issuing an invitation. Everyone just shows up.
Exactly. So if the guy was hoping to see the woman, he loses. So what does he do? Continue issuing last-minute casual invitations until he catches her at a free moment? It doesn't really work.
Why doesn't it work? I mean, I guess if the two people never have free moments that coincide it won't work. But how would that be solved by planning in advance?
Ya, the spontaneous invitation works well if you're not (or never) doing anything.
Really! From a guy's perspective, it makes sense. But from a woman's perspective, it wouldn't work, unless the girl being invited is really needy, and willing to drop everything and rush over to wherever the guy snaps his fingers and wants her to rush to.
It's like the guy thinks the woman he's interested in doesn't mind being at his beck-and-call. It's another guy theory that doesn't work in practice.
Really! From a guy's perspective, it makes sense. But from a woman's perspective, it wouldn't work, unless the girl being invited is really needy, and willing to drop everything and rush over to wherever the guy snaps his fingers and wants her to rush to.
It's like the guy thinks the woman he's interested in doesn't mind being at his beck-and-call. It's another guy theory that doesn't work in practice.
Why must we always jump to these ridiculous extremes?
Why doesn't it work? I mean, I guess if the two people never have free moments that coincide it won't work. But how would that be solved by planning in advance?
hmm... You don't seem to have much experience planning a meeting/get-together/hangout in advance. The concept is that you ask if she's free a certain time. She can either make time for you, or she'll say, no, I'm busy that night (or "this evening", or whatever). So you offer another day/time. If she wants to see you, she may say, "I'm free on Saturday". It becomes a joint effort to find an agreeable time. If she keeps saying she's busy, and doesn't offer a time when she's free, you assume she's not interested.
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