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Old 05-12-2013, 07:50 AM
 
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I don't know why any man would be so proud to become desensitized.

 
Old 05-12-2013, 09:44 AM
 
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Those men only make up a very small percentage of guys and more then likely those men werent all that into those women in the first place. The vast majority of time men turn to porn out of desperation
Most boys are pursuing porn by age ten. I don't think sexual frustration can account for that.
 
Old 05-12-2013, 09:45 AM
 
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I don't know why any man would be so proud to become desensitized.
Who and what are you responding to?
 
Old 05-12-2013, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Reno, NV
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So, is it porn that's the real issue? What if he masturbates to his own mental images? (It can take more effort though.)
 
Old 05-12-2013, 11:51 AM
 
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I think the theory is quite persuasive, that men like porn because when humans were evolving, sex was more often a group activity. Seeing people having sex meant you would be having some soon.

I think it's funny when men get confused and believe that if a woman doesn't use porn it means she is not highly sexual. Or that if she doesn't like him watching it she must be against him masturbating. Both ideas show a complete ignorance of female sexuality. Some women like porn, but most feel no connection between porn and sex or masturbation.
 
Old 05-12-2013, 12:03 PM
 
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It should be noted that a majority of women find a majority of men to be below average in looks, which is a statistical impossibility.
Not true at all.

Take this list of numbers
10
10
10
2
1
1
1

What's the average?
35/7 = 5
How many of the numbers are below the average? 4 of the 7 numbers are below the average. That's more than half of the numbers being below the average.

Now the problem with porn is that it's only a problem when it causes a problem.
If Person A watches porn 1 time a year and it negatively affects his/her relationships then it's a problem
If Person B watches porn every day and it has no negative affect on his/her relationships then it's not a problem.

Seems simple enough.
 
Old 05-12-2013, 12:08 PM
 
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I think it's funny when men get confused and believe that if a woman doesn't use porn it means she is not highly sexual. Or that if she doesn't like him watching it she must be against him masturbating. Both ideas show a complete ignorance of female sexuality. Some women like porn, but most feel no connection between porn and sex or masturbation.
My point was that women who are highly sexual are not generally offended or threatened by porn.

Many women are offended if they catch their husband masturbating... at least that was once true. It is generationally true. I do wonder if this is changing. It certainly seems to be with the younger crowd. It seems the internet has let the cat out of the bag.

To demonstrate how much things have changed, I remember when even most men wouldn't honestly admit that they masturbate, to other men or women, and esp not the wife!

My ex's view was explained in the op.

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When I told the ex that this is leading to a form of erectile dysfunction in young men due to desensitization, her response was one of utter disgust and she said that it serves them right... and they should go blind too. This wasn't a joke. It was genuinely hostile.
I would hope that you don't find her attitude funny.
 
Old 05-12-2013, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Katonah, NY
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I know just as many men that feel threatened by a vibrator as women that feel threatened by porn.

Every relationship is different. Some people have no problem with porn and sex toys - some people do. The important thing is to be on the same page as your partner or work out some sort of compromise that both people can live with.
 
Old 05-12-2013, 12:22 PM
 
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I completely get that all men look at porn, that doesn't bother me at all. Men are EXTREMELY visual, much moreso than women, which is why I think many women don't understand nudie mags and porn.

Nope, I've yet to meet a single guy that didn't look at porn and it doesn't bother me in the slightest. I watch porn here and there as well, and think it can be fun watching it with a partner. The problem came when he started suggesting plastic surgery and putting me down because I didn't look like those women. There were also certain sex acts that we tried and I didn't feel comfortable with or didn't like and he made me feel terrible about it because apparently it was 'my job' to make him happy and my happiness and pleasure didn't factor into that at all.
Guys that would do this disgust me to no end! I can't imagine a guy treating his wife or lover like that. What ever happened to lifting your mate up with praise and making them happy? Not all guys watch porn, I seldom do, and I don't think it is just my age. Maybe I'm just old fashion, but love and caring has to enter into a relationship for me, or there is no relationship. I suppose watching porn all the time could desensitize a person to some extent, but when you don't watch it that much, you don't know what difference it would make. I prefer a real live person, and I know she, like myself, is going to have some flaws...
 
Old 05-12-2013, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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Pornography, by word origin, essentially means "writing of the prostitutes". It has generally been defined in the English language as being material of a written or visual nature which is presented for the express purpose of creating sexual arousal. We usually limit our social and political definition of "pornography" to the visual pornography which is typically directed towards a heterosexual male audience. Yet the romance novels directed at a heterosexual female audience are every bit as pornographic. There is nothing wrong with pornography in and of itself. People exposed to the same material will react in vastly different ways. It is above all, fantasy. The real problems occur when one becomes unable to separate that fantasy from reality.

Psychological addiction to anything is more a matter of the addict's personality than it is of the subject of the addict's addiction. At any rate, an addiction is not the same as an obsession, interest, hobby, etc. An addiction requires that an individual's life be severely compromised by that addiction. If you fail to pay the mortgage because you gambled-away the money, you're probably a gambling addict. If you don't spend time with your family because you've immersed yourself in religion, you may well be addicted to religion.

When it comes to pornography usage, there may or may not be an addiction. If someone becomes unable to relate sexually/emotionally with their partner, pornography addiction may be one possible explanation. There certainly do seem to be a large number of people who have become highly-desensitized to sexuality (whether or not one wants to argue that pornography is a factor). As a result, many of them are borderline dysfunctional in terms of relating to real-life partners.
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