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While I'm not denying it's existence, I'm more questioning the idea that, once you become friends with a girl/woman you don't have a hope of making an intimate question. I think the obvious reality is that most, perhaps the majority, of relationships begin with friendships, sometimes even after a long time. If the FZ thing applies in most cases what is the maximum 'incubation period' of a friendship before you it to escalate into something romantic?
I think the obvious reality is that most, perhaps the majority, of relationships begin with friendships, sometimes even after a long time.
This is projection and exactly the kind of thinking that gets guys friendzoned. Because men combine the two (even though they think they separate them), they can not fathom that women are capable of separating friends from sexual partners, and when friendzoning happens to them they are shocked. "How could she NOT want to have sex with me? We're so close and such good friends!"
A woman who does not friendzone a guy is simply one who is already sexually attracted to that guy and will let him know that, even if they don't have sex right away.
All depends on if she will ever see you/ the guy in a romantic way. I have friends that will always be friends because I will never be attracted to them. We never talk about sex or anything sexual because I just won't go there with them, we just hang out and have a good time. However if you have a friend that is very open and talks about sex and sexual content there is the potential of a romantic relationship. IMO
This is projection and exactly the kind of thinking that gets guys friendzoned. Because men combine the two (even though they think they separate them), they can not fathom that women are capable of separating friends from sexual partners, and when friendzoning happens to them they are shocked. "How could she NOT want to have sex with me? We're so close and such good friends!"
exactly, i bought this whole "friendship" crap, being White Knights to girls. Doesn't work.
Mainstream Media will have you believe it works, but it doesn't.
All depends on if she will ever see you/ the guy in a romantic way. I have friends that will always be friends because I will never be attracted to them. We never talk about sex or anything sexual because I just won't go there with them, we just hang out and have a good time. However if you have a friend that is very open and talks about sex and sexual content there is the potential of a romantic relationship. IMO
meh, not sure. my two closest females friends share sex stories a lot, we've never had sex, and never will.
While I'm not denying it's existence, I'm more questioning the idea that, once you become friends with a girl/woman you don't have a hope of making an intimate question. I think the obvious reality is that most, perhaps the majority, of relationships begin with friendships, sometimes even after a long time. If the FZ thing applies in most cases what is the maximum 'incubation period' of a friendship before you it to escalate into something romantic?
No, I don't believe in the Friend Zone. But I think a belief in the Friend Zone develops in an understandable way.
Men are often told that they should become "friends first" with the women they desire. While this is a good strategy in theory, it often fails in practice. The problem with is that single, available women are almost always being pursued by several men at any given time. If a man moves too slowly, if he attempts to be "friends first," he will usually get knocked aside by another man who is more aggressive. That is what men when they say they are in the Friend Zone.
Every girl I date has some sort of friend zoned doormat. Yes it exists.. I don't understand how someone is even capable of having such low self respect they'd put themselves through that.
Being friends with a girl is normal, but being friends with a girl secretly waiting for your opportunity is one of the dumbest things a person can do.
People have been friends first and developed into more. I have a few exes like that. Went to a wedding this past week for a couple that started out that way.
Friendzone is just what guys call it when she simply isn't attracted to you but you can't let the dream go. But that has nothing to do with whether you can be friends first before eventually turning into lovers IMO.
ETA: to better answer the OP's question, I will say the longest "incubation period" for me personally was about 3 years. The couple whose wedding I attended recently were friends for about 5-6 years before they started dating. I will say none of the examples involved one single person approaching another single person for a date only to be turned down and and offered a friendship instead. Either one or both were dating someone else when they met and/or there was no attraction at first and they were just friends.
imho. if youre in the FZ folder, youre most likely staying there. I believe, a woman knows within the first 20mins if something romantic is ever going to happen. If a guy isn't bedding her within (lets say a week) you're most likely just a hangout buddy.
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