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You aren't going to find many Christian men who are pro choice
Actually, a pretty significant number of Christians are pro choice. Some entire denominations (such as Presbyterians, Episcopalians and ELCA, which is the largest branch of Lutherans) are officially pro-choice. Others, such as Catholics, have a majority of members who are pro-choice (65% of American Catholics in a 2008 survey) even though the church officially opposes it. It's primarily the fundamentalist/evangelical Christians who are not pro choice.
I don't want to derail the thread here, but couldn't let such a blatantly false statement slip by without responding.
I don't quite follow the logic of this question but for starters, there's no alimony in Texas and second, you are not "stuck" with child support. You are that child's father and you have an obligation to your child and any man who views it as being "stuck" is not a man I'd want anything to do with.
Doesn't matter if there is alimony in Texas or not. It is hypothetical question.
I am just showing you the other side of the coin. What I did was showing you a man in your situation. Short is equivalent to you being overweight. Alimony and child support is equal to you having two children. Fit and young is equal to your tall and successful requirement, childless and educated is childless and educated and atheist republican is equivalent to your Christian Democrat. So,
Do you think a short man stuck with alimony and child support is likely to get a fit educated young childless woman who is an atheist republican?
Personally I think you need to stop with the criteria. You are missing out on a lot of great guys by eliminating them if they don't rank up. Go out meet people, roll with it , if you meet someone and theirs a hint of a spark.. but doesn't match your "list" go with it for a while see what happens.
^This
Taking this approach was the best thing that ever happened to my dating life. Approach each person as a whole and unique person you are getting to know rather than a criteria checklist. It can really open up your world.
lilyflower, I just could not go there. A man who would vote for Romney? A man who would vote for a McCain/Palin ticket? A man who values the unborn but once a child is born, he'd better pull himself up by his bootstraps and not rely on the government to fill his stomach? :\ I could not do it.
I agree that I could never date someone with those values. It does sound like getting out of Texas would help, though a metro the size of DFW should have progressive people.
So if he cant support your children, but can support himself then that's fine?
Is he a success in his career? Is he a bright man? Then sure. Unintelligent men and men who flounder career-wise into their 40s and 50s...neither is very attractive to me. I would date a nurse, yes, though of course I'd prefer if by this point in his life he had the drive and intellect to be a nurse practitioner. A home health care worker? I don't think so.
They talk about having a dad. They NEVER talk about having siblings and have no desire for more. I never said I would rule out a guy with kids though. It's simply a preference. Maybe I am wrong but my son simply seems too vulnerable.
In NICU the docs call the male babies "wimpy boys" because they are less likely to survive (all things equal) than the girl babies.
A vulnerable boy won't fare well in this world. Keep that in mind.
Is he a success in his career? Is he a bright man? Then sure. Unintelligent men and men who flounder career-wise into their 40s and 50s...neither is very attractive to me. I would date a nurse, yes, though of course I'd prefer if by this point in his life he had the drive and intellect to be a nurse practitioner. A home health care worker? I don't think so.
Hmmm, I would think you would be more attracted to someone who has demonstrated ability to care for others to the point of making a career out of it (passion not money). Especially with a son like yours.
Let's see. I suffer from postpartum post-traumatic stress disorder and am only now seeking help. That's pretty hot, isn't it?
Whatever you do, continue with your treatment. Therapy can help you change how you view the world in general, which can change how you view dating and relationships for the better.
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The kids! What guy doesn't want four year old twins?
I'm overweight. I think all guys want this, yes?
See? I have just gotten started and already you can see what a catch I am.
It's probably not realistic to demand a guy not have young children when you have young children yourself, or demand that he have certain physical attributes (like height) when you're lacking certain physical attributes yourself. I thought your checklist seemed unrealistic even before I saw these things, but now it does even more so.
Actually, a pretty significant number of Christians are pro choice. Some entire denominations (such as Presbyterians, Episcopalians and ELCA, which is the largest branch of Lutherans) are officially pro-choice. Others, such as Catholics, have a majority of members who are pro-choice (65% of American Catholics in a 2008 survey) even though the church officially opposes it. It's primarily the fundamentalist/evangelical Christians who are not pro choice.
I don't want to derail the thread here, but couldn't let such a blatantly false statement slip by without responding.
I actually am not pro-choice or exactly pro-life (such stupid terms). I am a fence sitter. My thought is, if you are going to kill your unborn baby, at least do it in the first trimester and preferably the earlier part of that. Do it when there is some hope that the life you are ripping apart does not feel great pain as you do so. I think it is always wrong to abort your child but sometimes you are comparing two wrongs, not choosing between wrong and right.
That's quite a laundry list. The thing is, you may well find a guy who meets all of those criteria, but the odds that he is all of those things and someone you have a chemistry and mutual attraction with are quite slim. I'd focus more on finding someone you hit it off with, and worry less about the checklist.
IMO, the OP is more concerned about a guy having money and succesful than anything else.
What I don't understand is how a thread like this can have over 250 responces. Darn, and I just contributed. Of all the issues and whatnot on this thread, and THIS one gets high traffic? It's kind of like hitting you head against the wall trying to rationalize with this woman. Not going to get very far. I say everyone tell her that her expectations are realistic.
That way she rejects every guy that approaches her, and she stays out of the dating world. That is pretty much win/win for everyone. Especially for the poor sap that approaches her.
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