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What are you talking about? I live in a mostly isolated area and cannot date the people that I work with. The only places around to meet someone are bars, which is not the best place for something serious.
So I'm limited in my options to begin with. When I wasn't so limited, I met more women. This is a difficult place to meet women, in general. All of my single friends (even the tall, good-looking ones) agree.
What you are saying here is that you have "issues". Your options are limited by your circumstances, just as hers are. So you are both on a somewhat even playing field, really. Except that you are playing the princess card, and putting in "zero effort".
Exactly how long do you think this ride will last?
What you are saying here is that you have "issues". Your options are limited by your circumstances, just as hers are. So you are both on a somewhat even playing field, really. Except that you are playing the princess card, and putting in "zero effort".
Exactly how long do you think this ride will last?
That's what I don't get, how he doesn't see that HE is the princess in this scenario. Which is hypocritical and nothing to be proud of.
This whole thread is a classic case of trying to shame a man into accepting and taking on responsibilities that aren't his. Cristo has been up front with what he wants (his own biological kids) and hasn't been deceptive with the woman he is dating. Far as I know it doesn't sound like he is whispering sweet nothings into her ear saying I love yous in order to get what he wants from her. It sounds like they are both getting what they want from each other at this point in time which is companionship and quality time. Eventually it probably will not work out because of long term life goal differences but for the present time they are really enjoying each others company.
Why is it men have to 'Man up'? He is dating a grown woman capable of her own choices. Instead everyone is making her out to be a vulnerable woman that is being taken advantage of by a man. Man bad, woman good. Man must accept responsibility, woman is vulnerable because she is a woman and therefore not responsible.
Where is the equality here?
No, that's just you reading with your misogynist glasses again.
In fact, most of us have urged him NOT to "take on responsibilities that aren't his." My only goal is for him to see his dishonesty in this scenario. He and the woman are both lying to each other, and neither of them is actually thinking about the kids.
This whole thread is a classic case of trying to shame a man into accepting and taking on responsibilities that aren't his. Cristo has been up front with what he wants (his own biological kids) and hasn't been deceptive with the woman he is dating. Far as I know it doesn't sound like he is whispering sweet nothings into her ear saying I love yous in order to get what he wants from her. It sounds like they are both getting what they want from each other at this point in time which is companionship and quality time. Eventually it probably will not work out because of long term life goal differences but for the present time they are really enjoying each others company.
Why is it men have to 'Man up'? He is dating a grown woman capable of her own choices. Instead everyone is making her out to be a vulnerable woman that is being taken advantage of by a man. Man bad, woman good. Man must accept responsibility, woman is vulnerable because she is a woman and therefore not responsible.
Where is the equality here?
Actually, he has been deceptive with the woman he's dating. He hasn't told her he wants to have his own kids, and isn't with her long-term for that reason. He's only been up front with us about what he wants and doesn't want.
No, that's just you reading with your misogynist glasses again.
In fact, most of us have urged him NOT to "take on responsibilities that aren't his." My only goal is for him to see his dishonesty in this scenario. He and the woman are both lying to each other, and neither of them is actually thinking about the kids.
Well, there are a few things that I left out in this scenario. This woman isn't exactly naive. She's pretty much a nympho and easily had sex with 3-4 times the amount of people that I've had sex with (and I've had sex with a fairly large number of women).
It's not like I'm taking advantage of a near virginal saint lol.
Well, there are a few things that I left out in this scenario. This woman isn't exactly naive. She's pretty much a nympho and easily had sex with 3-4 times the amount of people that I've had sex with (and I've had sex with a fairly large number of women).
It's not like I'm taking advantage of a near virginal saint lol.
I doubt anyone assumed that a woman with several kids was a near-virginal saint. And btw, The term "nympho" is so obsolete. It comes from back in the day when women weren't supposed to enjoy sex. You don't want to go back to those days, do you? I don't.
I doubt anyone assumed that a woman with several kids was a near-virginal saint. And btw, The term "nympho" is so obsolete. It comes from back in the day when women weren't supposed to enjoy sex. You don't want to go back to those days, do you? I don't.
Personally, I think women should not give it up so easily, as it ruins their respectability. That's just me though.
I would have trouble seriously dating a woman that has had over 100 sex partners, which is what this woman has had.
Well, there are a few things that I left out in this scenario. This woman isn't exactly naive. She's pretty much a nympho and easily had sex with 3-4 times the amount of people that I've had sex with (and I've had sex with a fairly large number of women).
It's not like I'm taking advantage of a near virginal saint lol.
That doesn't matter. Nothing after the "I'm taking advantage ... " part of your sentence matters. Because what matters is YOU ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE.
You know, just when I think you cannot make this thread any worse, you manage to. You have a very f*cked up way of looking at things.
Personally, I think women should not give it up so easily, as it ruins their respectability. That's just me though.
I would have trouble seriously dating a woman that has had over 100 sex partners, which is what this woman has had.
To each their own though.
Funny, I read thru this whole thread with interest and was starting to come down more on your side b/c it sounds like you did tell her you want kids of your own someday? But then this. The fact is that you're looking to justify using her for just sex and using the number of partners she's had in the past as your justification. Fact is, you have zero respect for this woman and it's just a "feels good now" kind of deal. Well if she's just using you for the same reasons, then carry on; otherwise set her free to meet someone who will truly love her for the whole package. Either that or make it very clear that you two are just FWB.
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