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go ahead and blast away with all the horrible aspects of that lifestyle, but stop being so self righteous and admit that there are plenty of screwed up women (and men of course) who lead unfortunate lives. we all have challenging lives in one way or another. and as the old psychiatry joke says, no one escapes childhood unscathed.
ohh, since you are so full of "oh the humanity" b.s., let me just throw out another example for you to chew on that happened to me this weekend.
yesterday i met up with my ex gf to talk to her about some business plans i had where she could help me do some market research paid by the hour and perhaps doing some referrals where i would cut her a fee. it's been almost 2 years since i broke up her (pretty much because we had some incompatibility issues and at the time i wasn't ready for another committed relationship after being freshly divorced) but even after we broke up i loaned her one of my cars, paid the insurance, gave her some personal assistant work, etc. for about 6 months until she couldn't deal with it anymore. anyway she is smart, cute and recently graduated with a degree in psychology (yup, no b.s. and as mentally healthy as they come) but she can't find a job outside restaurant work and is still living with her parents, both of whom i met, are my age, and who liked me at the time i she was living with me. and near end of our conversation (we were at a pub watching the football game), she straight up told me she was looking for a sugar daddy, and of course she knew i did that kind of stuff. i said "i'm game but you know what i like" and she said she was down and said she had tried doing it before but just had issues finding the right guy and she needed a new car, new job, etc. and i said, "well our sex was always pretty damn good, so fine with me", and she smiled and agreed. it's a deal, i will financially help her in exchange for some good times and, most importantly, this involves some emotional connection and chemistry.
in my eyes, i really see very little fricken difference from what i talked about above because it is always a mutual and consent understanding between two adults. so please stop crying about how horrible it is when two consenting adults decide to become intimate on their own terms. stop being so dam paternalistic (or maternalistic for that matter) about how other women and men go about finding and getting their emotional and sexual needs met. i'm sure you don't enjoy other ppl commenting on who you are involved with or sleep with, so just let others consenting adults live their lives like they want to live them.
Okay, well, you added a whole lot after I originally copied and answered you. The thing is, nothing about what you said changes anything about my original feelings.
I'm not crying. I do cry about things. I cry about a whole lot of things. But I'm not crying about your posts.
It's also obvious that you get a charge from flinging these ideas at people... I don't usually interact with trolls. I'm just weary of people thinking that using another human being is acceptable in any way.
no sorry, i don't get a "charge" out of this. i like debunking commonly accepted dating and relationship b.s., because the old rules about chivalry, dating rituals, etc are being deconstructed by feminism, modern day economics, and the internet, specifically information is more readily shared and discussed. so i'm not a troll, though if it make it easier for your to accept that and disengage from our conversation, so be it.
and "using" people is such a worn out excuse when it comes to commenting on the activities between two consenting adults, isn't it really????? i mean what really makes you (or anyone else for that matter) so special to say that some other adult's consenting conduct is socially acceptable? or more accurately, not "using" the other when the two know what they are getting into? and i don't mean to say that in an offensive way, but i guess what i am really saying is that in our commerce based culture, is it really any surprise that dating, sex, and relationships are becoming more commodity and resource driven? is it really any surprise that beauty, youth and sex have a market value when we are exposed to "sex sells" and quality lifestyles type commercials pretty much daily and throughout our lives???
there was a time when we viewed women who did "skin" or porn flicks with unsavory disdain, so a women who was interesting in pursing that line of work was always worried about being discovered "in the industry". but today there are so many young women doing porn it is so hard to discover them in the sea of women doing it. heck, it's even gotten to the point where young women do porn just to capture the moment of their sexual peek for the sake of memorializing it. just got google "amateur allure" or "girls do porn" and it's amazing how many good looking young women do it consentually. are they mentally screwed up or doing it under duress? please be respectful of their choices. there are even former beauty pageant contestants doing it, and lets thank women's lib for that too because embracing good sex at the peek of their physical beauty was a good step forward in women's equality.
sorry if i misread your prior comments. i'd rather deal with your honest and genuine thoughts than spin it like i'm trying to prove some bullshyt point. i value my time and thoughts , and yours of course, more than that for sure.
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honestly, porn stars are prolly the craziest escorts i have been with. regular escorts who have no involvement in the porn industry seem a lot more well rounded - or at least have more stable personalities. but whenever i break down and get a porn star i am always disappointed because 1. it's freakin expensive and 2. they always act so crazy.
no sorry, i don't get a "charge" out of this. i like debunking commonly accepted dating and relationship b.s., because the old rules about chivalry, dating rituals, etc are being deconstructed by feminism, modern day economics, and the internet, specifically information is more readily shared and discussed. so i'm not a troll, though if it make it easier for your to accept that and disengage from our conversation, so be it.
and "using" people is such a worn out excuse when it comes to commenting on the activities between two consenting adults, isn't it really????? i mean what really makes you (or anyone else for that matter) so special to say that some other adult's consenting conduct is socially acceptable? or more accurately, not "using" the other when the two know what they are getting into? and i don't mean to say that in an offensive way, but i guess what i am really saying is that in our commerce based culture, is it really any surprise that dating, sex, and relationships are becoming more commodity and resource driven? is it really any surprise that beauty, youth and sex have a market value when we are exposed to "sex sells" and quality lifestyles type commercials pretty much daily and throughout our lives???
there was a time when we viewed women who did "skin" or porn flicks with unsavory disdain, so a women who was interesting in pursing that line of work was always worried about being discovered "in the industry". but today there are so many young women doing porn it is so hard to discover them in the sea of women doing it. heck, it's even gotten to the point where young women do porn just to capture the moment of their sexual peek for the sake of memorializing it. just got google "amateur allure" or "girls do porn" and it's amazing how many good looking young women do it consentually. are they mentally screwed up or doing it under duress? please be respectful of their choices. there are even former beauty pageant contestants doing it, and lets thank women's lib for that too because embracing good sex at the peek of their physical beauty was a good step forward in women's equality.
believe me, i'm no troll. you just find it challenging to deal with and accept my opinions, even if they are rationally, experience and evidence based. and by the way, please accept my apologies if i misread your prior comments. i'd rather deal with your honest and genuine thoughts than spin it like i'm trying to prove some bullshyt point. i value my time and thoughts , and yours of course, more than that for sure.
God, your posts are so long, it's exhausting.
Lol
Okay.
A) This isn't "commonly dating and relationship b.s.." It has nothing to do with that. I have no problem with sex between two enthusiastic partners. Trust me. I have absolutely no problem with that.
B) Lol. I'm not saying that I'm so special about anything. I only said that some people are taking advantage of other people. I see that you have a point you are trying to get across, but it's obvious that that is your main objective, because you're not really addressing what I'm saying, you're blowing it all out of proportion.
C) Lol. I like sex/sexuality. I really, really like it. I think it's awful how we have been taught that it's wrong, bad, whatever. But the thought of me having sex with a guy and he's going to hand me a 20 or a 50 or a 100 dollar bill afterwards... I wouldn't like it.
no sorry, i don't get a "charge" out of this. i like debunking commonly accepted dating and relationship b.s., because the old rules about chivalry, dating rituals, etc are being deconstructed by feminism, modern day economics, and the internet, specifically information is more readily shared and discussed. so i'm not a troll, though if it make it easier for your to accept that and disengage from our conversation, so be it.
and "using" people is such a worn out excuse when it comes to commenting on the activities between two consenting adults, isn't it really????? i mean what really makes you (or anyone else for that matter) so special to say that some other adult's consenting conduct is socially acceptable? or more accurately, not "using" the other when the two know what they are getting into? and i don't mean to say that in an offensive way, but i guess what i am really saying is that in our commerce based culture, is it really any surprise that dating, sex, and relationships are becoming more commodity and resource driven? is it really any surprise that beauty, youth and sex have a market value when we are exposed to "sex sells" and quality lifestyles type commercials pretty much daily and throughout our lives???
there was a time when we viewed women who did "skin" or porn flicks with unsavory disdain, so a women who was interesting in pursing that line of work was always worried about being discovered "in the industry". but today there are so many young women doing porn it is so hard to discover them in the sea of women doing it. heck, it's even gotten to the point where young women do porn just to capture the moment of their sexual peek for the sake of memorializing it. just got google "amateur allure" or "girls do porn" and it's amazing how many good looking young women do it consentually. are they mentally screwed up or doing it under duress? please be respectful of their choices. there are even former beauty pageant contestants doing it, and lets thank women's lib for that too because embracing good sex at the peek of their physical beauty was a good step forward in women's equality.
sorry if i misread your prior comments. i'd rather deal with your honest and genuine thoughts than spin it like i'm trying to prove some bullshyt point. i value my time and thoughts , and yours of course, more than that for sure.
He's right. Lot's of young girls are doing porn. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the women at my college were doing it.
but you can't tell me that a girl with a healthy mindset would go into this "career" willingly otherwise.
I am not sure it is for you to dictate what we can - or can not - tell you. If it is your contention that women entering this trade are somehow unhealthy of mind - then I am all ears to hear your substance for this contention.
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This is not even addressing all the other horrible situations that are related to it. Don't even want to go into all that... I'm just referring to the girls/women who enter into it "willingly."
Not entirely clear what it is you are trying to say. Are you saying no one enters this career path willingly ever? Or you have numbers to show whether it is majority or minority? Or what?
I am not sure it is for you to dictate what we can - or can not - tell you. If it is your contention that women entering this trade are somehow unhealthy of mind - then I am all ears to hear your substance for this contention.
Not entirely clear what it is you are trying to say. Are you saying no one enters this career path willingly ever? Or you have numbers to show whether it is majority or minority? Or what?
Well, okay, you're right, I guess I can't say as a fact...
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and it's hard being brainy btw, sh*t just starts downloading lol
