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Old 12-16-2014, 11:54 AM
 
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When I was 33, I had me a virgin man of 26. He had extreme social anxiety, was quite attractive and I'm sure had more than a few women make passes at him. Our co-workers sort of set it up so that he and I were at the company ski condo for a weekend and the others who were supposed to be there somehow managed not to go. It took me a little while to realize they set it up!

Anyway, I think the time passing with him untouched was assuming a larger meaning than it needed to. Our first time was absurd- worse than any high school fumble. Almost nothing actually happened. The second time a few weeks later was like a new person, not experienced but absolutely doing things pretty well! A while later, he started a relationship with a woman who eventually became his wife, and I took pretty much took credit for helping him out (hey, it wasn't exactly heavy lifting. He was a friend and an attractive one at that).

Gary, wherever you are, yes, this is me!

In the days of personals in the newspaper, I thought guys lied and said they were virgins to get curious women to take them on. I hear it worked pretty well.
Jesus... I can't believe things like this actually happen.

 
Old 12-16-2014, 11:55 AM
 
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No, but it can affect the way virgins see themselves.
I don't think just being a virgin will ever completely destroy somebody else's self-esteem. It's usually a symptom of something else. For me I still deal with anger and insecurity because of my abusive family.
 
Old 12-16-2014, 12:03 PM
 
Location: California
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Character, integrity and being responsible is what makes a man. I know guys who have more sex than they should, and in no way do I consider them good men.
 
Old 12-16-2014, 12:14 PM
 
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I don't think just being a virgin will ever completely destroy somebody else's self-esteem. It's usually a symptom of something else. For me I still deal with anger and insecurity because of my abusive family.
If you think being a virgin is due to some kind of failure/shortcoming on your part as opposed to simply a choice that you made, I'd think it would definitely impact your self-esteem.
 
Old 12-16-2014, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Avignon, France
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No
 
Old 12-16-2014, 12:17 PM
 
Location: DFW
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Having sex is a healthy part of being a man.
 
Old 12-16-2014, 12:17 PM
 
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Character, integrity and being responsible is what makes a man. I know guys who have more sex than they should, and in no way do I consider them good men.
That's true, but the OP never said anything about being a "good" man.

I do think having sex is recognized by most cultures as a rite of passage to adulthood.

How often have we all heard that cliche of sex turning a boy into a man and a girl into a woman?
 
Old 12-16-2014, 12:19 PM
 
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I do think having sex is recognized by most cultures as a rite of passage to adulthood.
I do believe that being an adult though does not make one a Man. There is a difference.
 
Old 12-16-2014, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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I do think having sex is recognized by most cultures as a rite of passage to adulthood.
Cultures? You mean like amongst a group of 16 y/o high school boys? Get out of here. Mature, sophisticated adults don't think this way.
 
Old 12-16-2014, 12:35 PM
 
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I understand why men who have not had sex might not feel like "real" men. Although many women would probably be polite to their faces upon learning this information many of them probably wouldn't date them. Not everyone but a significant chunk of them. That could lead them to feeling like less of a "man". The idea of sex being equated with masculinity is everywhere. Even if it doesn't come from women it most certainly comes from men. I've known several men brag about their sex lives and ask me about mine. I usually lie of course because there is no way I'm going to to admit to being a virgin in front of other guys.
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