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well simply put, how does a woman need to learn how to get a date or get a boyfriend when she doesn't have to be the one that "goes for what she wants", she doesn't have to initiate anything? interested to know how it works when you look at it from the other perspective, look at it from the other persons shoes
She doesn't. She just doesn't date if no one chooses her.
and simply put, how does the guy do the choosing? obviously men can't force women to date them against their will, the woman chooses just as much as the guy. applying for a job is a good example, who determines who gets hired, who gets the job? the job applicant or hiring-manager?
The guy (usually) chooses which women he will approach. Of course, a woman can choose to accept or reject the advance. For the women who are never approached, there is no choice. There are many women out there who would have made great lovers and wives, but because their looks didn't measure up to a standard in someone's mind, they never got a chance.
well simply put, how does a woman need to learn how to get a date or get a boyfriend when she doesn't have to be the one that "goes for what she wants", she doesn't have to initiate anything? interested to know how it works when you look at it from the other perspective, look at it from the other persons shoes
You want to look at it from the other person's shoes? How about this - we were at the movies and the film hadn't started yet. I lifted the arm rest to show the guy how the seating adjusted. He proceeded to push the arm rest back down and sat stoically through the entire movie staring out of his head with his hands in his lap.
still, I doubt you can think of any woman, who is like almost 30, or over 30 and never had a boyfriend before, but i'm sure you can think of plenty of guys who are in that situation or were in that situation before.
Nope, I am almost 60 and I know a few women who never had a real boyfriend. Some ended up being a side thing for a married man and that was as close as they got.
And no, I don't know plenty of guys in that situation. I can only think of one, a friend of my brother's. He is 50, not gay, but never had a girlfriend. Nice guy, just a bit odd. Lives with two cats.
I think me being a woman would naturally know more women like that and you being a guy would naturally know more men like that.
and simply put, how does the guy do the choosing? obviously men can't force women to date them against their will, the woman chooses just as much as the guy. applying for a job is a good example, who determines who gets hired, who gets the job? the job applicant or hiring-manager?
A person can decide whether or not to apply for a job. If a candidate sees a job he absolutely loves, he can beeline right there and aggressively present his resume and ask for an interview. He HAS chosen his potential pool of jobs.
A recruiter can't drag likely candidates in by the arm and demand that they interview for him. He has to sit there and wait to choose from among the candidates, with possibly none being the right choice, or a choice he would have made.
NEITHER gender gets ALL the choices or all the freedoms or has to do ALL the work or blah blah, can't we put this to rest?
still, I doubt you can think of any woman, who is like almost 30, or over 30 and never had a boyfriend before, but i'm sure you can think of plenty of guys who are in that situation or were in that situation before.
I swear to the li'l Baby Jesus that I have never in my entire life known a man over 30 who had never had a first date.
We're talking very average guys here. Every type of guy.
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Guys, this is why it's a mistake to remain a virgin until past the age of about 20. People will always wonder about the reason, and whether you are even interested in sex and intimacy.
Whatever it takes, with whoever you can, get some experience sharing your body with someone else. 20 more years of fear and porn is going to ruin your ability to act normally and naturally in intimate situations.
It wasn't like we had a choice. We need someone to be interested like that. That is where most of our problems lie.
Nope, I am almost 60 and I know a few women who never had a real boyfriend. Some ended up being a side thing for a married man and that was as close as they got.
And no, I don't know plenty of guys in that situation. I can only think of one, a friend of my brother's. He is 50, not gay, but never had a girlfriend. Nice guy, just a bit odd. Lives with two cats.
I think me being a woman would naturally know more women like that and you being a guy would naturally know more men like that.
That makes sense.
I know a guy who turns 59 this year, he has never had a girlfriend.
It happens.
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