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Old 06-23-2008, 09:42 PM
 
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how would I be there for a friend that is doing the damage to herself? How can I help that? I would stay her friend but I wouldn't know how to help that out.

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Why would you not defend your friend? The point of friendship is being there through both the good and the bad. BE THERE FOR HER!
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Old 06-23-2008, 09:44 PM
 
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lol....she knows they are married. Don't you see this as an ethical issue, not an emotionally retarded issue? Psychologists aren't the most ethical people either. They work on mental illnesses like depression and anxiety disorders not this sort of stuff. It sounds like a fatal attraction type of situation...minus the drama.

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That would drive me crazy too! It's just so hard to watch. You just want to shake them and say "HE USING YOU!" lol

Anyway, I wouldn't just scream the obvious. I would say, "I think you could benefit from talking to someone. You're just such a wonderful girl but are not meeting the right people. Here is the name of someone my friend uses and really likes ___[insert psychologist name]__________"
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Old 06-23-2008, 09:45 PM
 
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It sounds like your friends moral compass is askew, not her self esteem.
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Old 06-23-2008, 09:46 PM
 
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I totally agree. It doesn't have much to do with being emotionally retarded/low self esteemed.

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It sounds like your friends moral compass is askew, not her self esteem.
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Old 06-23-2008, 09:50 PM
 
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If this were an isolated incident I might be able to say she got in to a bad situation, has low self esteem, blah, blah, blah! It sounds like she keeps you around because you will always look past her bad choices and will not call her out on it.

A real friend would have a very stern talk with her about her choices...and this woman is making CHOICES, the mens wives aren't!

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Old 06-23-2008, 10:27 PM
 
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She reminds me of a gay guy friend I had that would sleep around with married men. He would do it without a second thought and it was a habit. I don't talk to him anymore.

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If this were an isolated incident I might be able to say she got in to a bad situation, has low self esteem, blah, blah, blah! It sounds like she keeps you around because you will always look past her bad choices and will not call her out on it.

A real friend would have a very stern talk with her about her choices...and this woman is making CHOICES, the mens wives aren't!
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Old 06-23-2008, 10:51 PM
 
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lol....she knows they are married. Don't you see this as an ethical issue, not an emotionally retarded issue? Psychologists aren't the most ethical people either. They work on mental illnesses like depression and anxiety disorders not this sort of stuff. It sounds like a fatal attraction type of situation...minus the drama.

Why am I even responding?

Anyway, yes I suppose it is an ethical issue. But nonetheless, I'm just thinking practically about what can be done to help this woman.

Wow. You are right. Not every single psychologist is a saint. Fascinating. What does that have to do her getting help from someone who has helped others in her situation?

You are totally wrong about that last point. Psychologists deal with all sorts of issues that impair someone's functioning and happiness. Mood disorders, eating disorders, coping with cancer, forensic, adjustment, couples issues, violence, substance abuse, infertility, race issues, learning disabilities, brain issues, developmental issues, self-esteem, parenting, abuse, smoking cessation and yes, even personality disorders. Though some are quite a bit more resistant to change than others (did I miss anything jessiegirl?)

Back to the OP - get your friend some therapy. There's probably more to it than you think.
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Old 06-23-2008, 10:55 PM
 
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despite the bazillion amounts of psychologists the nation is still a dysfunctional place.

i'd say get her help with a professional that specializes in that area.

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Why am I even responding?

Anyway, yes I suppose it is an ethical issue. But nonetheless, I'm just thinking practically about what can be done to help this woman.

Wow. You are right. Not every single psychologist is a saint. Fascinating. What does that have to do her getting help from someone who has helped others in her situation?

You are totally wrong about that last point. Psychologists deal with all sorts of issues that impair someone's functioning and happiness. Mood disorders, eating disorders, coping with cancer, forensic, adjustment, couples issues, violence, substance abuse, infertility, race issues, learning disabilities, brain issues, developmental issues, self-esteem, parenting, abuse, smoking cessation and yes, even personality disorders. Though some are quite a bit more resistant to change than others (did I miss anything jessiegirl?)

Back to the OP - get your friend some therapy. There's probably more to it than you think.
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Old 06-23-2008, 10:57 PM
 
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despite the bazillion amounts of psychologists the nation is still a dysfunctional place.

i'd say get her help with a professional that specializes in that area.
I would argue that dispite a "bazillion" psychologists in this nation, the fact is that not enough people avail themselves of their services and THAT is why we encounter so much dysfuntion all around us.
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Old 06-23-2008, 10:58 PM
 
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Why am I even responding?

Anyway, yes I suppose it is an ethical issue. But nonetheless, I'm just thinking practically about what can be done to help this woman.

Wow. You are right. Not every single psychologist is a saint. Fascinating. What does that have to do her getting help from someone who has helped others in her situation?

You are totally wrong about that last point. Psychologists deal with all sorts of issues that impair someone's functioning and happiness. Mood disorders, eating disorders, coping with cancer, forensic, adjustment, couples issues, violence, substance abuse, infertility, race issues, learning disabilities, brain issues, developmental issues, self-esteem, parenting, abuse, smoking cessation and yes, even personality disorders. Though some are quite a bit more resistant to change than others (did I miss anything jessiegirl?)

Back to the OP - get your friend some therapy. There's probably more to it than you think.
RIGHT. There's always more to a situation like this than you think.
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