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Old 12-29-2008, 08:36 AM
 
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I am not being judgemental but I have read a few books like Princess, Desert Royal, Mayada etc and many of the scenes moved me to tears. It seems that men in Saudi Arabia treat their wifes/daughters very badly. Certainly where equal treatment is not given to women could not be right?
True enough. Imagine marrying a Saudi, then going back home to live with him. First, you have to wear a hijab. Second, you're not allowed to drive. Third, you're not allowed to go anywhere without being escorted by a male family member.

That's not some paranoid fantasy on my part. That's simply the law. And if you think your husband or boyfriend is controlling, that's nothing compared to what you'd face taking up housekeeping in Riyadh.

 
Old 12-29-2008, 08:47 AM
 
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To the contrary,
In my travels all around the world, Muslim cultures have no such thing as child abuse as we witness here in the US. The idea that a child can be abused or molested by a parent is unknown to the muslims world. Rights of children and women as humans have been long stablished in the Muslim world centuries before the legislations of such laws in the American legal system.
All said, Muslims are people. Not all are pious or even religious for that sake. Like all Christians are people and not pious or even religious for that sake.
Shall we do some justice and not generalize so much.
Globalchick
 
Old 12-29-2008, 09:00 AM
 
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To the contrary,
In my travels all around the world, Muslim cultures have no such thing as child abuse as we witness here in the US. The idea that a child can be abused or molested by a parent is unknown to the muslims world. Rights of children and women as humans have been long stablished in the Muslim world centuries before the legislations of such laws in the American legal system.
All said, Muslims are people. Not all are pious or even religious for that sake. Like all Christians are people and not pious or even religious for that sake.
Shall we do some justice and not generalize so much.
Globalchick
Sorry, didnt realise I was generalizing. Yes, Muslims are good people. No doubt about that.
But, they do know child abuse etc ..Can you believe it that there are many cases where in a 10 year old girl is married and is sent to live with her 50 year old husband? The girls own parents allow this to happen, for what ever reason. This, in my opinion is child abuse. I dont know about a parent abusing his own child. You might be right.
Blood money is also common and legal in Saudi.

But like you said, not all Muslims allow such cruel things to happen to their own children.
 
Old 12-29-2008, 09:02 AM
 
Location: SoCal - Sherman Oaks & Woodland Hills
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To the contrary,
In my travels all around the world, Muslim cultures have no such thing as child abuse as we witness here in the US. The idea that a child can be abused or molested by a parent is unknown to the muslims world. Rights of children and women as humans have been long stablished in the Muslim world centuries before the legislations of such laws in the American legal system.
All said, Muslims are people. Not all are pious or even religious for that sake. Like all Christians are people and not pious or even religious for that sake.
Shall we do some justice and not generalize so much.
Globalchick
Thank you!!!

Finally someone with some sense posts here. I have many friends who are Muslim (there are different kinds but Im sure the OP doesnt know that or doesnt care) and they all LOVE, respect and treat their wives (some of whom are American women) very very well.

I take offense to anyone posting a thread advising someone to think twice before marrying a person because of their religious views.
 
Old 12-29-2008, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Tucson
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I have many friends who are Muslim (there are different kinds but Im sure the OP doesnt know that or doesnt care) and they all LOVE, respect and treat their wives (some of whom are American women) very very well.
Yep. As long as they live here!
 
Old 12-29-2008, 09:33 AM
 
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Sorry, didnt realise I was generalizing. Yes, Muslims are good people. No doubt about that.
But, they do know child abuse etc ..Can you believe it that there are many cases where in a 10 year old girl is married and is sent to live with her 50 year old husband? The girls own parents allow this to happen, for what ever reason. This, in my opinion is child abuse. I dont know about a parent abusing his own child. You might be right.
Blood money is also common and legal in Saudi.

But like you said, not all Muslims allow such cruel things to happen to their own children.
Thank you. Any culture where revenge killing, genital mutilation, child brides, and women being executed for being raped, etc. etc. are not held with anything less than total and absolute outrage and rigorously stamped out says a lot.

Again, I'm trying to figure out this naivete about all cultures being precisely the same. They are not.
 
Old 12-29-2008, 10:05 AM
 
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Anyone should think twice about marrying outside his or her religion and culture. Exotic people are good for a fleeting romance, not for marriage.
 
Old 12-29-2008, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Wichita,Kansas
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Child Abuse isnt common?You mean like honor killings?or selling off your daughter
To be a child slave(story i just read on msn).
There are many decent muslims who dont behave this way of course.
 
Old 01-16-2009, 01:40 PM
 
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I would like to clarify that there is a BIG difference between people who practice the real Islam, and those who don't. Please read up on Islam so U know for yourselves that Islam is not what you guys think it is. It is a religion of peace. For example you get devout Christians and then those who practice their own Christianity, e.g. criminals... it is the same for muslims, you get some good, who follow true islam and others bad, practicing their own version of Islam.
 
Old 01-16-2009, 06:57 PM
 
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Well my wife was married to an Iranian.She had two children by him.She divorced him because of his ways.

He was Orderd to pay Child Support which he never paid a dime.He did come for a visit on time.Was talking to my wife in Persian so I wouldn't know what he was saying.She told me later that he was trying to get her to go to Bed with him and he was saying he didn't know why not considering she was a worthless American *****.

He asked my Morther in Law if he could take the Kids to town? She told him yes I told her there was no way he was getiing them out of my sight.

Then he was treating the girl badly got her crying.Thats when I cameungled to him he don't treat women that way here,this is the Good Old U.S. of A. and if he didn't like it he could go back to Iran.Then my Mother in Law says I couldn't talk to him that way because he has money.I told her to stay out of it or I would take the kids away where she would never see them.

Well the Kids are grown and doing well.But he is living here and in Iran.They just got in touch with him couple years ago.He did spend a bunch showing them a good time at first.But as of now the kids see how he is and really don't want anything to do with him.

hillman
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