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Originally Posted by NotARedneck
This goes both ways but what is a telling statistic is that there are 4 times as many divorced women out there as divorced men. So despite many having little good to say about the men they marry and then divorce, somebody goes running to them when they "come up in the market" again. Meanwhile single men considerably out number single women.
So all that complaining has little to do with reality. If men were as bad as is claimed, they would be marked by divorce, but this obviously isn't the case. All it shows is that women learn little from others supposed mistakes and are loath to reconsider their previous choices. They cast their line into the same pond as before and wonder why they reel in the same bottom feeders. Then they give them another chance....and another....
(Note: some will claim that the reason that divorced women have it so bad is that they have children and are no longer wanted. However, this doesn't account for the large number of never married with children too.)
On one hand they ***** about men who treat them badly, don't respect them - yet they still keep going back to them, because of looks, or whatever else.
While Mr. Average Joe they don't even give the time of day, when they realize they'd be happy if they just stopped being such stuck-up prudes.
But perhaps it's just nature, made even worse by a self-centered, superficial society.
Every young man has got burned by women at one point or another. Then we quickly sharpen up and treat women like garbage. Works great. Highly recommend. The more you can degrade a woman, the better. Women LOVE it. The lower the self-esteem the better. Just look at what all the hot chicks are dating - jerks!
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Originally Posted by killer2021
Every young man has got burned by women at one point or another. Then we quickly sharpen up and treat women like garbage. Works great. Highly recommend. The more you can degrade a woman, the better. Women LOVE it. The lower the self-esteem the better. Just look at what all the hot chicks are dating - jerks!
This goes both ways but what is a telling statistic is that there are 4 times as many divorced women out there as divorced men. So despite many having little good to say about the men they marry and then divorce, somebody goes running to them when they "come up in the market" again. Meanwhile single men considerably out number single women.
So all that complaining has little to do with reality. If men were as bad as is claimed, they would be marked by divorce, but this obviously isn't the case. All it shows is that women learn little from others supposed mistakes and are loath to reconsider their previous choices. They cast their line into the same pond as before and wonder why they reel in the same bottom feeders. Then they give them another chance....and another....
(Note: some will claim that the reason that divorced women have it so bad is that they have children and are no longer wanted. However, this doesn't account for the large number of never married with children too.)
I also think women get married more often is because they don't have much to lose usually. Men make more than women so men 9/10 are the ones paying and paying and paying. Money has everything to do with divorce since that is the most often reason cited for divorce. Marriage is pure business deal these days. I am surprised so many men are still open to the option of getting married. Unless you are poor and will be poor for a while, no point in getting married.
Men will be men though, they don't learn the pan is hot until they touch it!
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I treat men with respect to the degree that the man is worthy of respect.
This is like how women define, "love." Women always put up this image of how they fall in, "true love." In reality, they only love those who pass their strict requirements - have xyz car, has xyz paying career, has xyz home in zyx exclusive location etc.
Women only respect you if you have something they want....money which is usually the case. That is one reason you should never buy a girl anything but always maintain the illusion that you have money. Always dangle your bait just a couple feet out of her reach. If you don't have that, then how dare they step down from their throne to talk to YOU. It isn't until they are past their prime (30+, fat etc.) that they start to get interested. At that point they start to realize that the time is ticking so they have to settle for a guy like YOU. Deep down inside she knows she always longed to be with the wealthy doctor or lawyer.
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Most of them were written up to their supervisors or given a very abrasive lecture on manners, I seriously do not take garbage from women, however I have to be extra careful because I do not want anybody filing a law suit on me for anything.
Very good artsyguy. You should always know what the laws are and always try to keep the upper hand when it comes to laws. Also yes don't take garbage from women. The only reason women have power over men is because men submit to them and all their nonsense. Once you don't tolerate it, all their little demands go out the window.
Last edited by killer2021; 02-27-2009 at 12:56 AM..
I can see why women would hate some men, but they are just as guilty of making blanket judgments as men do about women. I hate generalizations - especially negative ones - about any group, and people who shun certain groups and are blind to individual differences. American women - from what I've seen in the media and heard, have been subliminally told by family members, society, the media, that Mr. Right has to be perfect in any way. If he makes one small false move - bam! 'you don't deserve that crap girlfriend, dump his ass!' Aussie girls in the city are often just as bad, it's hard enough for me and I'm not even a 'jerk' as you would say.
And yet, you just made a massive generalization about American women
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All of the misogynists are coming full-force in this thread.
I also wouldn't blame the "bad image" the media portrays men with (ie. the dumb sex maniac) on women...some men seem more than comfortable to perpetuate that stereotype to get out of personal responsibility for their actions. They pull the "biology" card and the "boys will be boys" excuse.
I would say that most women respect men as a whole. Individuals are another thing.
Remember that women were harshly dominated by men for a long time, and still are in many ways & very much so in other parts of the world, so is some wariness at this point really a shock?
The whole gender wars thing is really a pointless issue to me though. Trying to prove one gender is more evil is so petty.
There's always talk about men dis-respecting women, what about the opposite?
Some women seem to treat men like dirt - either like all losers, sex-maniacs are dumb oafs...sitcoms seem to reinforce that. They seem to lump all men in the same category regardless. Seems especially apparent in the US, with Australia not far behind.
Relationships are foundational for growth. Not necessarily just between men and women, but for all relationships. How we impart feelings, which is the essence of communication, is primarily done by two methods.... love for women and respect for men. For women... love is the primary means of communication , love is ... a natural gender specific conduit for viewing her world, and for men ... respect functions the same way. For example... how many valentine cards express "respect"? as opposed to love? Could anyone even imagine a women receiving a "I respect you" card for valentine's day? Respect cards are virtually non existent.... and "love" cards reach an almost infinite number. Another example... the military... male dominated... and not much love but an incredible amount of respect... respect is not only given but demanded of those in "service". You might hear (example) a general address his troops by saying " your actions today demonstrate honor and courage in the face of death, for this I respect you" but you'll never hear him say love in place of respect. Both men and women must learn... that which they do not naturally know... for men it's love and for women it's respect. Why? because the very thing we do not naturally know is the very thing we so desperately need. Women speak the language of love and men the language of respect.
Self respect for women is necessary in order to give respect. Respect is derived from self esteem and most women are not very good at esteeming themselves, often the reverse is actually true. You can not give respect if you do not have it, if you do not have it you must go find it, if you do not find it you can not give it.... like a snake consuming it's own tail... a endless destructive cycle. In marriage conflicts, women often say something like ... " I love him but I have no respect for Him"... that is incredible damaging for husbands/men to hear. We often hear people say or expect "unconditional love" but never hear "unconditional respect" as part of relationships. If a woman needs love is it reasonable to believe a man needs respect? If a man is expected to give his wife "unconditional love" is it reasonable to expect a woman to give unconditional respect?
Men on the other hand are very good at self esteeming, we pump ourselves up, often to unrealistic/embellished positions. The product can be giant egos or arrogance. In a similar situation mentioned above , marriage... he may say " I respect her but I don't love her".... again, a soul damaging statement to say to a women. Men do not naturally process feelings through love... so they must find it to give it and if they do not know how to recognize it they can not find it.... again a vicious cycle for relationships.
"Loveless" or "disrespectful" relationships are doomed ... and I speak primarily about marriage. If a man withholds love she withholds respect... she withholds respect he withholds love... the cycle of craziness. When marital infidelity enters the picture (speaking of men) it usually begins with a women expressing respect by holding him in "high regard"... she admires him... and he is smitten. A women is drawn to a man who is loving and caring... he makes her feel lovely... he makes her feel "special" because he speaks her language.
Love and respect should be perceived as the conduits by which men and women process. Her world is love his world is respect... we need both, but one is natural and one is learned.
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