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How does that saying go, doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result is the defninition of insanity? Something like that. As evidenced by the thread about male vs female dry spells, there are many men on this very forum who haven't been with a woman in several years. Being themselves isn't working and it's time they change things up. I'm a huge advocate of self-improvement, of "be your best self" as Neil Strauss put it. That spans from hitting the gym to learning about style/fashion to maybe getting some dental work. That also includes learning how to communicate with women in the most attractive manner possible, aka "game". I think a lot of you guys have the wrong idea about this stuff or have closed your minds to what's possible. Talking to women is just another form of public speaking. Nobody is born good at it and some people are naturally better than others. Those who suck at a subject in school take a class. If you suck at cooking you take a non-credit cooking class. If you suck at public speaking you take a speech class or maybe join Toastmasters. If you are terrible with women then a dating coach may be in order, just like if you such at a subject at school you might get a tutor to help things out. It's really no different. People need to get their head around it and realize they're all GOOD things to go. Sitting on your butt, shrugging your shoulders wondering why nobody likes you, posting about it on a forum and doing nothing to improve your situation is just lazy and unproductive.
I agree---what is it about my post you disagree with? Surly, you don't advocate "being plastic" just so you can get in some girl's pants.....confused here???????
the bigger jerk and a*****e your are the more you'll score
Sure, you'll get quantity, but how's the quality??
Girls like to be swept off their feet a little bit. Guys should understand that. We all want to feel special - like you chose us when you could have had others. Being aggressive and competitive, those aren't bad things. Especially aggressiveness, although that doesn't give guys a license to act like a brute. Pair aggressiveness with confidence, a dry wit, and a little intrigue and I'm good to go.
To what some of you define who a "nice guy" is then he actually has it made.
This response is solely for the "nice guy" then:
He doesn't have to worry about possibly catching lifelong and possible life-threatening STD's "annnnnnd" oooopsy preggers "annnnnnnnnnnnnd" paying 18+ years to mommy for that "ooooopsy" "annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd" court appearances, etc, etc, etc......................
To what some of you define who a "nice guy" is then he actually has it made.
This response is solely for the "nice guy" then:
He doesn't have to worry about possibly catching lifelong and possible life-threatening STD's "annnnnnd" oooopsy preggers "annnnnnnnnnnnnd" paying 18+ years to mommy for that "ooooopsy" "annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd" court appearances, etc, etc, etc......................
Who said nice guys are virgins?
If you aren't a virgin, no matter how nice you are, you're at risk for all those things and more.
Sure, you'll get quantity, but how's the quality??
Girls like to be swept off their feet a little bit. Guys should understand that. We all want to feel special - like you chose us when you could have had others. Being aggressive and competitive, those aren't bad things. Especially aggressiveness, although that doesn't give guys a license to act like a brute. Pair aggressiveness with confidence, a dry wit, and a little intrigue and I'm good to go.
Quick question, what do you mean by aggressivness without being a brute? Is it in the sense that it is synonimous with being assertive?
Nice guy (or being a nice guy) is, I think, a bit objective and very open in meaning, it could be a "Gentleman", a "pushover", some guy who isn't aggressive (still wondering exactly what that means when it comes to how men treat women) and makes up for it by sucking up to her and being passive.
I'd say being 'gentlemanly' like holding doors open and treating her respectfully (until she shows that she doesn't deserve it) and saying nice things about them or what is on their person (like how they look or how they are today) is the best route.
Nice guy (or being a nice guy) is, I think, a bit objective and very open in meaning, it could be a "Gentleman", a "pushover", some guy who isn't aggressive (still wondering exactly what that means when it comes to how men treat women) and makes up for it by sucking up to her and being passive.
More and more I get the feeling that the self-described "nice" guys are mostly the misogynists. The really good people don't appear to have the need to label themselves as "nice."
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