why dont we see the rest light of the sun? (genesis, Revelations)
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You are confusing the outshining rays of light which are refracted from the sun with the body of the sun, itself. I did not say the light you see is the body of the sun.
Enoch says the sun and the moon are the same in circumference, but that the sun shines seven times brighter than the moon, and Enoch rightly says the moon gets her light in definite measures from the sun. Enoch calculates the year and the sun and moon's positions, to the days -which are not a [so called] solar year, for there is no such thing in Enoch's calendar, but a portion of a cycle of the oribits of the heavenly bodies, which cycles are completed every nineteen years or so [can't remember exactly].
Who's talking about light or which one is brighter? I'm not confusing anything, nor am I talking about "outshining rays of light". You stated before, as well as now, that the Sun and Moon are the same in circumference. In other words, you're claiming they're the same size. Or do you mean they relatively appear the same size, such as during an eclipse. What exactly are you talking about?
When have you seen the sun? -the actual body of the sun itself? You have never "seen" it, but have seen the light refracted out from it.
Everyone who isn't blind has seen the sun including you. It's that bright round object that rises in the east every morning and sets in the west every evening, you can't miss it. It's also very obvious that we can measure distances in space with extreme precision or we'd never be able to send a space probe millions of miles to places such as Mars (it's one of the planets that orbits the sun) and be able to calculate the speed of both the moving planet as well as the space probe and the exact angle required to land there successfully. We know exactly how large the planets are as well as the exact size of the sun and I agree with Sanspeur that it's time to take that book of Enoch out to the recycle bin.
The whole post is ignorance personified.
Education, real education, is our friend.
In NO POSSIBLE way is the Sun the same size as the moon. The is noticeable just by looking.
There is a very common and dangerous similarity between all religions. They all hate, deny, and work very hard to discredit fact and science. Religion is a product of the stone age, and they really want to keep mankind in the stone age, except they do like the new technologies for killing those that have different beliefs than their own.
If that's the case, then both the Sun and Moon would be equal distance from the Earth. That can't possibly be true, because during a total eclipse the moon passes in FRONT of the Sun. That means both the distances and the circumferences of the Sun and Moon cannot the same.
Example:
We know that an orange is much larger than a dime. If you hold the orange out at arms length, and the adjust the distance of the dime closer to your eye, the dime appears to be the same size (or cover the orange). The closer you bring the dime to your eye, the larger the dime appears. Did the dime somehow become the same size or larger than the orange? No. It has to do with their distance from each other. The same thing applies to the appearance of the Sun and Moon in relation to our point of observation here on the Earth. It means the Sun is much larger but is also much farther away.
you are using earth bound measurements, assuming that they work in the heavens as they work on earth, but that is not the way God did make the universe.
Once you get outside earth, you're dealing with "forces" called "winds/powers" in Enoch, which exist in the stretched out heavens. So NASA scientists can fuel up a space ship and send it out into a target in space, using their formulas, but they aren't really dealing with distance as on earth, but with "power/force".
Everyone who isn't blind has seen the sun including you. It's that bright round object that rises in the east every morning and sets in the west every evening, you can't miss it.
I've never seen the wind nor the "sun", technically, nor have you. We see light which the sun governs, as a glorious sphere, but we don't actually see the sun itself. How could we? We see an image, but not the actual core. No one can even visit it, so how can you say you know what it is?
I've never seen the wind nor the "sun", technically, nor have you. We see light which the sun governs, as a glorious sphere, but we don't actually see the sun itself. How could we? We see an image, but not the actual core. No one can even visit it, so how can you say you know what it is?
You see NOTHING, you only see the light that is reflected from, or refracted through your object. You find your car in the driveway, not by seeing it, but by the light reflected from its surface. Try an experiment, go into a completely dark room, take your favorite book, pet, possession and tell me what you see.
In the night time there exists a different rational way of not seeing the sun than in the day time when we are say in a basement, you know what I mean. If we see a paintng with the painters view of the sun we in a way might be seeing the sun's factual presence lighting up the painting. Is the right metaphysics? I believe I am not quite yet right.
you are using earth bound measurements, assuming that they work in the heavens as they work on earth, but that is not the way God did make the universe.
Once you get outside earth, you're dealing with "forces" called "winds/powers" in Enoch, which exist in the stretched out heavens. So NASA scientists can fuel up a space ship and send it out into a target in space, using their formulas, but they aren't really dealing with distance as on earth, but with "power/force".
Thank you for being so clear and to the point. You've again completely avoided the point and swung out on a wild tangent. I wasn't talking about how the universe was made. Your claim was that the Sun and the Moon have the same circumference, that they're the same size. It doesn't require any special effort to understand that's complete and utter nonsense. So, according to your reckoning, if the Moon and Sun both have to be the exact same circumference, then they would also both have to be the exact same distance from the Earth. Do you think a dime and an orange are the same size? Perhaps a whale and an ant are also the same size as each other? Do you see the problem with your line of thinking? It doesn't require NASA scientists to know the difference.
When have you seen the sun? -the actual body of the sun itself? You have never "seen" it, but have seen the light refracted out from it.
Actually, look outside sometime, that big red ball of light that burns your eyes if you look directly at it without the proper equipment, that is THE SUN. The giant ball of gas and fire that sets at night and rises in the morning is THE SUN.
News flash ,YOU CAN SEE THE SUN!!!!
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