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for me the main reason i don't believe in the god in the old scriptures, is how can a god that supposedly is so great and powerfull and loving send poor sheeples to hellforeternity,!?? for just not believing in him,?? that's like sending a child to jail with hardened criminals for life.!!! for stealing a stick of gum... how does one come to believe in him when all we have is some old misinterpreted rewritten forged books that claim a god exist. it screams out scaremongering tactics created by the most evil species on the planet man.!!!! and another reason is why would that god let millions of children that are to young to know evil from good, suffer a living death for so long.?? why, tell me why.??
if there is a god or gods.?? it definitely is not the one in those old books.
The reason I do not believe in god or any gods is because of lack of evidence.
Any evidence at all, reason and fairy tales just can't co-exist. You can have reasonable views of reality, or you can have fairy tale views, but I don't know how you mix the two.
for me the main reason i don't believe in the god in the old scriptures, is how can a god that supposedly is so great and powerfull and loving send poor sheeples to hellforeternity,!?? for just not believing in him,?? that's like sending a child to jail with hardend criminals for life.!!! for stealing a stick of gum... how does one come to believe in him when all we have is some old misinterpreted rewritten forged books that claim a god exist. it screams out scaremongering tactics created by the most evil species on the planet man.!!!! and another reason is why would that god let millions of children that are to young to know evil from good, suffer a living death for so long.?? why, tell me why.??
if there is a god or gods.?? it definitely is not the one in those old books.
so what is your main reason for.??????
God set up Laws to rule things, including humans and angels. Ever since Adam sinned and was driven out of God's Kingdom, humans are no longer inside God's Kingdom. They need to pass the final judgment to make their return.
In human history humans are cruel. The Egyptians killed the children of the Jews on sight simply because the Jews were getting over-populated. Even as late as AD70 when the Romans took over Jerusalem, they killed the Jews (over a million) rampantly. And as late as 1940 Hitler killed the Jews even systematically.
The Jews once were no better than the Egyptians nor the Romans, or else they couldn't have survived the surrounding enemies holding the totally different religions. God chose them not because they were any better in terms of brutalty or humanity, they were chosen perhaps they are good message keepers (they can keep the Word all along with them in the 2000 years of exile without a country to belong to).
Only after receiving the Mosaic Law and after settling in Canaan, they were gradually educated to be the upholders of God's Law.
Moreover, no fairy tales can ever attract 1/3 human being believers including the greatest minds such as Isaac Newton.
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God set up Laws to rule things, including humans and angels. Ever since Adam sinned and was driven out of God's Kingdom, humans are no longer inside God's Kingdom. They need to pass the final judgment to make their return.
In human history humans are cruel. The Egyptians killed the children of the Jews on sight simply because the Jews were getting over-populated. Even as late as AD70 when the Romans took over Jerusalem, they killed the Jews (over a million) rampantly. And as late as 1940 Hitler killed the Jews even systematically.
The Jews once were no better than the Egyptians nor the Romans, or else they couldn't have survived the surrounding enemies holding the totally different religions. God chose them not because they were any better in terms of brutalty or humanity, they were chosen perhaps they are good message keepers (they can keep the Word all along with them in the 2000 years of exile without a country to belong to).
Only after receiving the Mosaic Law and after settling in Canaan, they were gradually educated to be the upholders of God's Law.
Moreover, no fairy tales can ever attract 1/3 human being believers including the greatest minds such as Isaac Newton.
god is god all powerfull,, why not revise his own laws. he must have a lot of evil associated with him to let all the suffering go on.!! come on why would god have to send sheeples to hell for eternity for just not believing in him.?? it's such a petty offence. i mean come on we are talking about the deity that created the universe in 6 days.!!! so your telling me a god with such powers can't alter his rule book for the sake of goodness, where the hell is the good in this god when millions of children are suffering while we speak.. i know,?? it must be bureaucracy amonst the gods, you know the god that governs this universe must get permission from the bigger god to chage the laws created by the bigger gods and so on. that should explain why nothing ever gets done when it comes to god. kinda like congress wouldn't you say.
god is god all powerfull,, why not revise his own laws. he must have a lot of evil associated with him to let all the suffering go on.!! come on why would god have to send sheeples to hell for eternity for just not believing in him.?? it's such a petty offence. i mean come on we are talking about the deity that created the universe in 6 days.!!! so your telling me a god with such powers can't alter his rule book for the sake of goodness, where the hell is the good in this god when millions of children are suffering while we speak.. i know,?? it must be bureaucracy amonst the gods, you know the god that governs this universe must get permission from the bigger god to chage the laws created by the bigger gods and so on. that should explain why nothing ever gets done when it comes to god. kinda like congress wouldn't you say.
If God stops everything bad from happening, there won't be free will at all. Moreover, God doesn't send His sheep to hell. His sheep's names are well written in the Book of Life and they all will be saved.
Evil will be eradicated as a whole and once and for all, once His Ultimate Plan is realised. And I guess one of the purposes of His plan is to build a Kingdom of freewills where those choose to be there will be there.
It's quite a handy argument, the argument from evil, but the main reason I don't believe is that there is no good evidence for it.
Firstly, which god are we talking about? For all of the believers in various religions to cry 'Why OURS obviously.' only makes belief in any one of the personal gods ridiculous.
The idea of a sort deist - god is an interesting one, but frankly I don't see what difference it makes whether one believes it or not.
So, no. There is no reason to believe. Only the 'no morals without God' apologetics package which is pretty much discredited, logically and evidentially.
I'll borrow a well-worn phrase from believers......
I just know it in my heart
Yup this is where I as an atheist I will just agree to disagree with you
My best reason is like another poster stated...lack of real evidence...books written by man do not count for me
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and another reason is why would that god let millions of children that are to young to know evil from good, suffer a living death for so long.?? why, tell me why.??
