The Earth would be better off were the human species to go extinct. (Islamic, worship)
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I often think, that given that our small, insignificant ball of rock is perhaps one of only a handful of planets out there with the environmental conditions, and solar stability in the universe to allow the evolution of sentient, intelligent life, it makes it perhaps one of the most valuable things in existance. Frankly, given our rote mismanagement of the planet, and our complete disregard for our place in nature (thanks in no small part to the 'man is higher than nature' belief posited by Judo-Christian-Islamic faiths) I believe that the world, and every animal on it would be significantly better off without humans.
Geologically, the human species, and its interaction with the world would be considered a major extinction event. We're a disaster. We're a meteorite hitting a continent. We're that level of a mess on the planet. We're the anthropocene extinction. We can't avoid it. Any culture that made any effort to acknowledge the importance of nature has seemingly been wiped from the planet, or good efforts were made to do so.
We're a scourge, and frankly, one day nature will flick us from this world like fleas from a dogs back. One can only hope its before we've completely trashed the biosphere.
Our little world is irrelevant in on the galactic scale anyway. So if everything that has ever happened on earth is meaningless to the greater perspective we might as well stay around.
Besides, it's the earth's fault for evolving us into sentient beings anyway...Ma Nature should have gone with dolphins, not apes.
We're a scourge, and frankly, one day nature will flick us from this world like fleas from a dogs back. One can only hope its before we've completely trashed the biosphere.
The earth would bounce back from anything we could do to it, short of a planet-buster that broke it into tiny chunks.
I often think, that given that our small, insignificant ball of rock is perhaps one of only a handful of planets out there with the environmental conditions, and solar stability in the universe to allow the evolution of sentient, intelligent life, it makes it perhaps one of the most valuable things in existance. Frankly, given our rote mismanagement of the planet, and our complete disregard for our place in nature (thanks in no small part to the 'man is higher than nature' belief posited by Judo-Christian-Islamic faiths) I believe that the world, and every animal on it would be significantly better off without humans.
Geologically, the human species, and its interaction with the world would be considered a major extinction event. We're a disaster. We're a meteorite hitting a continent. We're that level of a mess on the planet. We're the anthropocene extinction. We can't avoid it. Any culture that made any effort to acknowledge the importance of nature has seemingly been wiped from the planet, or good efforts were made to do so.
We're a scourge, and frankly, one day nature will flick us from this world like fleas from a dogs back. One can only hope its before we've completely trashed the biosphere.
Agreed....unless people wake up and smell the coffee NOW....this world will not be able to sustain life on it...it's resources are finite and we are destroying it.
The earth would bounce back from anything we could do to it, short of a planet-buster that broke it into tiny chunks.
We assume that to be the case, but we don't know that to be the case. There is no measure as to how badly we could ********** planet up. What about the species we drive to extinction? They won't bounce back. I'm ranking the value of human life, against everything that we've destroyed in our lifetimes alone, and I find the value of that human life (my human life to be clear, all human life) to be of less significance. Largely because I rate all life as being profoundly sacred and meaningful and don't believe that because we can name objects or build tools or dellude ourselves into a position of grandure that we're innately more worthwhile than anything else on the planet.
Fact is, we're a part of nature, a part of this world and unless we realize that profoundly and change our ways, we're a scourge. We're intelligent enough to see it, and realize it and arrogant enough to do nothing about it.
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Our little world is irrelevant in on the galactic scale anyway. So if everything that has ever happened on earth is meaningless to the greater perspective we might as well stay around.
Besides, it's the earth's fault for evolving us into sentient beings anyway...Ma Nature should have gone with dolphins, not apes.
Our planet may be one out of billions that cannot support life. How little we are, and what's happend on this planet makes it hugely significant on a galactic, heck a universal scale, not the opposite.
Topics like this are always predicated on the idea we have of the earth as we know it and what we think is best for us .
During the ice age, in areas of volcanic eruption, land masses lost to tsunamis,animal extinctions....to the earth they are all natural things...we are natural things, as are all the things we do.
The earth will adjust accordingly.
Unless we literally can blow the entire globe into smithereens, we can't destroy it....ourselves, maybe but not Earth
We assume that to be the case, but we don't know that to be the case. There is no measure as to how badly we could ********** planet up. What about the species we drive to extinction? They won't bounce back. .
I'll have to disagree with you on this point. The earth has experienced several extinction-level events in its history. It doesn't matter if a specific lifeform is driven to extinction, because something else will evolve to step into its place. This isn't speculation, it's something that we know has happened in our planetary history. The earth would literally have to be broken into pieces or engulfed by our sun in order to destroy all the life that lives upon it.
Topics like this are always predicated on the idea we have of the earth as we know it and what we think is best for us .
During the ice age, in areas of volcanic eruption, land masses lost to tsunamis,animal extinctions....to the earth they are all natural things...we are natural things, as are all the things we do.
The earth will adjust accordingly.
Unless we literally can blow the entire globe into smithereens, we can't destroy it....ourselves, maybe but not Earth
Ah that old chestnut. Everything we do is fine because nature evolved us and we're natural. The problem you've got with that argument is that it bares no regard for our capacity to think. While nature may have evolved a capacity to think, the second that capacity to think, reason, build tools etc evolved it allowed us to live in a way that is fundamentally unnatural. The human race is now evolving not in accordance with natural selection pressures, but societal selection pressures. We cure illnesses, keep alive the weak and the infirm, allow a massive population growth as a result. This is neither a good nor a bad thing, however it's not a natural evolutionary course.
Also, we've made conscious decisions as a society as to how we live, and how we treat the earth. We have made a conscious decision to use fossil fuels for cars, and to cut down the rain forests for wood. To cast aside trash, to not live sustainably, despite having the ability to live in an alternative lifestyle, where we were sustainable, where we were mindful of our footprint, where animals that should exist, but for the careless hand of man could still exist. Where biospheres of staggering natural beauty can and should exist, but for us just not caring as much about them as we do about our cars, or our electricity, or our entirely self nullifying capitalist driven existance where we make ourselves slaves to brainless, profit driven sociopathic entities we call corporations.
Bottom line is, we as thinking beings have a choice as to how we live. Nature doesn't make those choices for us. We do. We choose to live the way we do, knowing it needlessly destroys the planets resources, just as we could choose to not destroy them in the way we do.
That's down to us, and is nothing to do with nature, and the way we live our lives, is down to us. So no, saying we're as natural as tsunami, or an earth quake, or an asteroid impact isn't correct. We have the gift of a brain and the gift of choice. We can deside how we live.
We make bad choices and the world burns for it. We assume we're more important than a whale, a lion, a tiger, a bear, a bird, a plant. Really we're not. We see ourselves as above nature in every choice we make, because we're chosen people, when in reality, we're veraciously destructive primates with a serious inferiority complex.
I'll have to disagree with you on this point. The earth has experienced several extinction-level events in its history. It doesn't matter if a specific lifeform is driven to extinction, because something else will evolve to step into its place. This isn't speculation, it's something that we know has happened in our planetary history. The earth would literally have to be broken into pieces or engulfed by our sun in order to destroy all the life that lives upon it.
Mercury, I will accept your point, as it doesn't conflict with my intent with this thread. We need to think about how we live, and the choices we make, because right now, we are needlessly causing extinctions in animal and plant life based on choices that we as a thinking species have made. Whether the earth wil bounce back or otherwise is a matter for a different thread, but the point I'm raising here is, "Would the world be better off without us, given how we behave now" Not, will we completely obliterate the planet. Which frankly, we do have the nuclear capability to do, but I agree is unlikely to happen.
The Earth would be better off were the human species to go extinct.
This is one of those threads where everyone complains, but no one comes up with exact solutions. I am going to stick my neck out and give some exact solutions to the problems I see on Earth.
Money
Simply put, GET RID OF IT!!! We literally hold back cleaner technology just so a greedy minority can stay rich. The only role of the government should be mandating that everyone works at least 30 hours a week (to pay their debt to society). No pay and no charge will be involved. You simply work the job you love for only 30 hours a week, then go home. This will also help out on the unemployment situation because if more people work less, more jobs will be created.
Weapons of Mass destruction
Simply put, GET RID OF THEM!!! Their only targets are us (not the government cowards that deploy them).
Religion
Leave it alone. The worship of sky people is both delusional and primitive. It is no wonder that religious people are the most "trigger happy" bunch on the planet.
Energy
Leave fossil fuels alone. We have the technology to put solar panels on every roof top, build electric cars that can do 200 miles on a charge, put hydro-electric generators on most of our coastlines and much much more. The problem is that an energy "shortage" is how money is made (there's little profit in efficient energy). This all goes back to my first point of money. GET RID OF IT!!!
Population
Stop having all of these babies. Earth resources are finite. We can not continue to feed everyone at our current population growth rate.
Space Travel
This should be priority #1 IMO. Earth could get hit by the "big one" any day now. We should be working around the clock to develop technology to get off of this rock if ever it were doomed.
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