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Old 07-05-2007, 09:18 PM
 
Location: The #1 sunshine state, Arizona.
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It wouldn't change anything for me because I don't believe however I would feel very sorry for alot of people who would be completely confused and disoriented with no one to follow and no one to tell them what to do.
On a positive note, maybe the believers would feel empowered for their own accomplishments instead of giving god all the credit. IE "I prayed for this job and I was hired, Praise god." Instead they might say, "I was hired for the job because of my credentials and experience in this field."

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Old 07-05-2007, 09:21 PM
 
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On a positive note, maybe the believers would feel empowered for their own accomplishments instead of giving god all the credit. IE "I prayed for this job and I was hired, Praise god. "Instead they might say, "I was hired for the job because of my credentials and experience in this field."
This statement sums up my attitude. Good post.
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Old 07-05-2007, 09:40 PM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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I would feel empty. I would fight you tooth and nail that He does exist. I don't care what proof you have, you could never convince me He does not exist.
This is the type of thing that worries me. "I don't care what proof you have, you could never convince me He does not exist". The OP suggests that, hypothetically, we do have absolute, undeniable, 'no shadow of a doubt' 100% proof....yet some people would still not believe it. I find that very worrying!! The indoctrination machine is alive and well!!!
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Old 07-05-2007, 09:48 PM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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Now, if I had the means, I'd arrange a get together with all the non-believers on this forum so I could watch them gloat! I'm a people watcher from way back! The other thing I would probably do is take bets that this forum would still exist because I just can't see people letting go! "I told you you were wrong!" ."But I had good reasons to believe in God!". "No you didn't. You were an idiot!". "Just look at this piece of evidence, and this one!". Actually, I kinda think the atheists will take it harder than the Christians...who are they going to fight with now?!
HehHehHeh!!!
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Old 07-05-2007, 09:52 PM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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I don't know if I'd gloat.
Blimey! I would!

........but then, ya'll knew that didn't you??
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Old 07-05-2007, 11:29 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I'll never know, because I couldn't possibly find out until after I died.
I tend to relate to what Rob said here. You would never convince me, but I'll play along for the sake of argument. Let's just say if I became convinced that God didn't exist....

Quite frankly, I don't know... because so much of who I am has been shaped by my theism and Christianity that it's almost impossible to say how much of that would unravel or would any of it?

I don't think I would see much value in life. I think I would still value the love that I share with other people and I would see that as intrinsically good, I think.

If I'm honest, I think I would ultimately begin to travel down a road of cynicism and bitterness if I felt this life is all there was. Ultimately, I don't think I would be the same person I am. That wouldn't happen overnight, but I think it would happen if I'm honest.
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Old 07-06-2007, 12:02 AM
 
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This is the type of thing that worries me. "I don't care what proof you have, you could never convince me He does not exist". The OP suggests that, hypothetically, we do have absolute, undeniable, 'no shadow of a doubt' 100% proof....yet some people would still not believe it. I find that very worrying!! The indoctrination machine is alive and well!!!
Hey Plad, that seems like your logic.....only in reverse
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Old 07-06-2007, 12:10 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Hey Plad, that seems like your logic.....only in reverse
Whatever else you might say about most of us on the religion forum, believer and atheist alike, is that we are a "convinced" bunch!

Of course, for some of us that may be more of a problem than for others....but then we get into that pesky Pascal's wager again!
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Old 07-06-2007, 12:20 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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Hey Plad, that seems like your logic.....only in reverse
Absolutely not! As I have stated in the "What if Jesus returned" thread....if there was 100%, irrefutable evidence....then I would be a theist.
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Old 07-06-2007, 01:06 AM
 
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If that happened...I would be sad...I like to think, but to just die...no more thinking, however I also know some of my christian friends struggling with their own homosexuality who'd be much better off living their lives as their hearts tell them too, unburdened by the 'perceived' ramifications. Hmm
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