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Health benefits of masturbating? Others mentioned this too. This is ideological subversion at worse at best humbug. Conversely the health benefits of self mastery are pervasive and extend to eating and protect the person other addictions as well. A strong mind lends itself to a strong body and a strong soul. Masturbation weakens all three.
You have swallowed your ideological subversion whole by parroting these media lies. Many 60's children were swallowed the cultural poison whole.
Health benefits of masturbating? Others mentioned this too. This is ideological subversion at worse at best humbug. Conversely the health benefits of self mastery are pervasive and extend to eating and protect the person other addictions as well. A strong mind lends itself to a strong body and a strong soul. Masturbation weakens all three.
You have swallowed your ideological subversion whole by parroting these media lies. Many 60's children were swallowed the cultural poison whole.
Here is an article from Fox news. I would think that should be right wing enough for even those who enjoy suffering through life.
Perhaps the joke’s on us. While people love to make wisecracks about it, few will actually admit to doing “it.”
Yet, according to Martha Cornog, of "The Big Book of Masturbation", self-pleasuring is surely the second most common human sex act. And, despite its torrid history, that’s proving to be a good thing. Turns out this once taboo behavior has plenty of health benefits and can do wonders for your sex life.
While the shackles of masturbation have been loosening around our loins, it is only recently that society has started to let go of its guilt around solo sex. This is in part thanks to sex researchers affirming that most of us do it, as well as the embracing of it by television sitcoms. Who can forget the bet made by Jerry, Elaine, George and Kramer as to who could remain the “master of their domain” the longest?
Even if you’re not a conformist, there’s something about safety in numbers when it comes to this topic. (And if it makes you feel even better, know that masturbation is common among other animals, like dogs, cats, horses, bulls, rats, hamsters, deer, and whales, too).
This more relaxed attitude is also due to the medical community challenging its own original claims that masturbation was a serious medical-ethical problem with dire results. According to works like Onania, circa 1712, male masturbation was said to lead to disease or disorder with the loss of semen.
Likewise, in losing vaginal fluid, a female who took matters into her own hands was supposedly at risk for hysteria, jaundice, epileptic fits, and other negative health conditions. Of equal concern, self-pleasuring was thought to send her down the road to sodomy as well.
Anybody with “solo sexploration” experience can tell you that, contrary to popular myths, masturbation does not result in any of the aforementioned, nor does it lead to acne, warts, hair on the palm, insanity, blindness...
What many may not know, however, is that stimulating yourself can ultimately boost your health in many ways.
Health Benefits for Men
Research summarized in a 2007 article in Sexual and Relationship Therapy found that masturbation may help men by:
— Improving his immune system’s functioning.
— Building his resistance to prostate gland infection.
— Making for a healthier prostate.
Australian researchers have reported that frequent masturbation may lower a man’s risk of developing prostate cancer. A survey of men found the more frequently a man masturbates between the ages of 20 and 50, the less likely they are to get prostate cancer. In fact, those who masturbated more than five times a week were one-third less likely to develop prostate cancer.
Health Benefits for Females
When it comes to a woman’s health, self-pleasuring serves her well by:
— Building her resistance to yeast infections.
— Combating pre-menstrual tension and other physical conditions associated with their menstrual cycles, like cramps.
— Relieving painful menstruation by increasing blood flow to the pelvic region. This will also reduce pelvic cramping and related backaches.
— Relieving chronic back pain and increasing her threshold for pain.
Health Benefits for Both Sexes
Masturbation rewards both men and women because it’s:
— The safest kind of sex, keeping you free of sexually transmitted infections.
— A great form of stress relief.
— A mood booster in releasing endorphins.
— A natural sleep sedative.
— A mechanism for building stronger pelvic floor muscles, which can lead to better sex.
— A natural energetic pick-me-up.
As Sigmund Freud once remarked at the Vienna Psycho-Analytical Society, “the subject of masturbation is quite inexhaustible.” While he wasn’t getting at the benefits (Freud saw self-pleasuring as harmful to the genitals and one’s psychosexual and moral development), the same can be said in how it can improve one’s sexual relationship.
For couples who masturbate on occasion or regularly, sex with yourself can:
— Be empowering, especially by helping you to feel better about your body, genitals and sexual response.
— Deliver some of your most intense orgasms ever, which you’ll now know how to recreate with that special someone!
— Increase your sexual awareness, giving you the opportunity to discover what turns you on – the sensations and movements that work best to give you the greatest of sexual gratification.
— Have the potential to enhance your sex life in general, boosting your sexual confidence and turning you into a better lover.
— Get you or your partner off the hook if neither is available or not in the mood.
This article (The devil made me do it) talks about the historical origins of the connections between sex and sin. It doesn't specifically mention masturbation, but the general idea is that we ended up with a conceptual tension between the earthly/material realm and the heavenly/spiritual realm, and too much pleasure in the material realm distracts you from focusing on God 24/7.
I don't think that this is what most people consciously have in mind when they feel that "masturbation" is sinful, but we've all inherited these historically-rooted attitudes about "sacred vs. profane", "pure vs. worldly" etc. and most people generally don't associate sexual pleasure with the "sacred" or "divine" side of the equation (except maybe a little bit when screaming "Oh God! Oh God! Oh God!"...)
Blessed Are Those Who Take Things Into Their Own Hands..."
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Originally Posted by Jazzymom
omg...........pleeeeeeeeeese...............
I know, JM: it's appalling in'it it?
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Originally Posted by InsaneInDaMembrane
Clearly the passage was written by someone who wanted their audience to keep up with the social mores of the time. Those who did not want to burden the responsibility would remember this story and remember that god does not like guys wasting sperm and that knocking up females to keep the tribe going was important to him.
Yup, just like a herd of antelope out on the African veldt. Identical necessities & drives, we just being "improved" herd animals and all. You know, in the apelike image of God, the Top Gorrilla!
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Originally Posted by nezlie
There is no actual reference to masturbation in either the OT or the NT. Conservative christian churches have been known to expand the definition of fornication to include masturbation.
Those churches have been known for their revisionist approach to the written word for centuries. For instance, having been cornered with the time line of the Creation myth, they say God made a day equal 1000 days (actually, He'd have to have made a day = 100,000,000 days, but hey; who's counting?). But then, when done, He just reset the clock back to Godly Standard Time. Why? To make His badly written bible "fit" the subsequent reality of it all? Why again?
Silly on its face. We can of course forgive those ill-educated ancients, but supposedly schooled moderns buying into this stuff? Well, read on for more proof:
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Originally Posted by samyn on the green
Masturbating is a disorder and a violation of moral law.
Many people like the feeling of having a self induced orgasm and will even arrive at the fallacy that it is natural. rifleman's comments in blue: As a practicing wildlife biologist, I've witnessed polar & grizzly bears and other wildlife males self-stimulating in order to "manage" their urges. Since, of course, we're just end-products of an ongoing natural process of neurological Evolution, we share many of their behavioral initiatives. And... it's right out of the Advanced Handbook for Lemurs!
It was & is quite natural for man (and woman) to achieve relief in this way. To demonize it is, well, typical lurid religiosity and thus totally misguided. Nothing but religious zealotry, fear- and power-mongering. "Causes disease and weakness"... really....
Masturbation as a natural act turns truth on its head. People that smoke tobacco will quickly become addicted to nicotine and will find it "natural" to wake and smoke a cigarette first time every morning. It is important not to confuse "feels good" with normal or natural. Masturbation like smoking is not natural and is a form of self induced slavery.
The hand is a distinctive part of man, this is why the derivative of the word "man" in Latin is hand. Man's most valuable feature was never meant to be used for self inducing orgasms.
Especially an act that so easily can become an acquired habit. This is such of waste of potential. This like buying a 747 and using it for a leaf blower. Sure it may blow the leafs into the next town and it even seems like it was meant to be a bad-ass leaf blower. But masturbating, like using a 747 as a garden tool makes a mockery out of the true use of the orgasm.
Not hardly. That would be an obvious over-utilization and very wasteful. (Nor would it be "handy", as masturbation surely is...) As a matter of fact, it has been PROVEN that masturbation, either self- or sexual-partner induced, is a proven relief against prostrate problems. It wastes NOTHING. My wife an I have produced more than enough kids to satisfy our reproductive imperatives, no misfires or weakness detected. Oh-oh. Out the window go the myths. Facts versus nonsensical fiction: you pick.
The pleasure of the orgasm is special- we can all agree on this. Why is this feeling so special? This special feelings has a vital and critical role of bringing people together in the conjugal act to create a person from love.
Or for the bears, weasels, monkeys and rats just to reproduce, probably absent "love". It's a simple biological imperative to which man has added romantic dimensions. It's brought on by the simple but intense and natural need to reproduce, well fed by Evolution's adaptations, which include a climactic neural sensation to clinch the deal.
It is the ultimate physical/sensual reward that ensures that people (or polar bears...) come together to create the next generation. The orgasm is an expression of life (conjecture and romanticism) , it should not be misused to induce dead selfish pleasure. Conversely it is a true disorder to use/waste this gift to isolate oneself and dispense with the need for a partner.
It hardly dispenses with any needs for anything. The other related social drives, to create and maintain a happy relationship within an established monogamous relationship, and to build a society, do not require abstinence from masturbation.
The release of testosterone and semen induced in masturbation weakens man in every way. This is why when boxing trainers or sports coaches insist that their fighters/players don't masturbate before an event. It weakens a mans spirit, drains his power while limiting his potential.
Boxing & sports coaches are also prone to lots of old wives tales. There's absolutely no evidence that relief from sexual tension, especially in young, highly virile men and women who are prevented from natural mating by church-induced mores about "abstinence before marriage", causes ANY health or mental issues.
Of course, increased anxiety and sexual drive might increase the gametime aggressiveness in your local high-school quarterback, esp. if his hot cheerleader girlfriend has promised him an illicit reward post-game, in the back seat of his F150, but only if he wins the game... (she being the local preacher's daughter).
Alternative: Try to read, learn, & expand your life beyond fanatic religion.
I would be very suspicious of the intentions of anyone trying to trick you into thinking that masturbation is a normal act.
I'll bet you're very suspicious of a lot of things, right samyn? Again, I'm so very glad the Hand of your God isn't mandated in this land. Remember the Spanish Inquisition, folks.
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Health benefits of masturbating? Others mentioned this too. This is ideological subversion at worse at best humbug.
Medical support for your pontificating silliness? None, in fact. Ejaculation, no matter how it's achieved, reduces prostrate inflammation. Fact.
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"Home remedies for an enlarged prostate
For night-time frequency, drink as little fluid as possible... etc etc
Get up and urinate as soon as you feel.. etc etc....
Relax, or learn to relax if you don't know how. etc etc...
Reduce the fat content.. etc etc.,...
Have intercourse frequently. Ejaculation will remove prostatic fluid and shrink the prostate. (See, it's true, every rain cloud has a silver lining.)"
Conversely the health benefits of self mastery are pervasive and extend to eating and protect the person other addictions as well. A strong mind lends itself to a strong body and a strong soul. Masturbation weakens all three.
Rubbish. Medical nonsense, proven and demonstrable. I'd bet my life's earnings that ≈ 95% of the congregation down at your church have masturbated. But as well, by your prediction, 99% of all the males, and 95% of all females on this planet, would now be crack addicts, meth-heads and generally non-productive members of society. What intellectually impoverished religious tripe!
You have swallowed your ideological subversion whole by parroting these media lies. Many 60's children were swallowed the cultural poison whole.
Yup. Anything that flies in the face of the new-age Spanish Inquisition is media lies and bias. Just like all us dishonest, biased scientists, all hundreds of millions of us, over centuries of research and study, all conspiring in and maintaining absolute secrecy.
Health benefits of masturbating? Others mentioned this too. This is ideological subversion at worse at best humbug. Conversely the health benefits of self mastery are pervasive and extend to eating and protect the person other addictions as well. A strong mind lends itself to a strong body and a strong soul. Masturbation weakens all three.
You have swallowed your ideological subversion whole by parroting these media lies. Many 60's children were swallowed the cultural poison whole.
Rifleman has an excellent point.
Can you offer any modern day scientific evidence in support of your position?
Failing this, can you offer any logical (non-Bible-based) arguments in favor of your position?
Failing this, could you at least offer some personal or second-person anecdotal evidence supporting your position?
Nobody here has offered a good explanation, except perhaps samyn on the green.
Masturbation is not a sin because it hurts anyone directly, or because it is unhealthy. Indeed, masturbation has not shown to be harmful to health, and if evidence supporting this argument did come up, it would probably be repressed by sexologists and psychologists.
Masturbation is a sin (in the eyes of the Roman Catholic Church and others who derive their sexual morality from the same) because it subverts a natural end and is contrary to right reason. In Catholic moral theology, certain things have outcomes natural to them, and to do something without that potential outcome is to sin. For example, the consumption of food and drink is necessary for nutrition, with pleasure as a "pleasant" side effect (which drives us to eat in the first place); however, to eat solely and exclusively for pleasure and to engorge oneself is a sin, because it excludes the natural end proper to eating.
The "natural end" of sexual pleasure (according to Aquinas, who below Jesus himself and perhaps the apostles themselves can be considered the master of Catholic morality) is twofold: 1) the propagation of the human race (in other words, procreation) and 2) the unity of a husband and wife. The second end of it is really peripheral to the first, as consensual sex has been shown to induce hormones that produce a feeling of connectedness, whether married or not. Masturbation accomplishes neither of these. In reality, the same reason the Church prohibits masturbation is also the reason they prohibit contraception (because it shuts off the act to #1) but not natural family planning in certain cases (#1 is just less likely...there is nothing to impede it happening) and homosexual acts (#1 is impossible, and #2 is between the wrong people). Note that, at least in old moral theology handbooks, these were considered "unnatural sexual acts", because they perverted the primary end of human sexuality, while fornication (pre-marital sex), prostitution, and adultery were not considered unnatural but still sinful (because children resulting from the named acts were not as likely to grow up in a fully supportive environment...as can be seen today with deadbeat dads).
Modern day science -which still can't cure the common cold or explain gravity- is an impotent measuring stick (pun intended) for a topic of this nature. Are men truly going to be honest on a questionnaire like this and provide honest answers? Science has its use but not in this area. The data will be riddled with errors and lies. What you can look at is how the 1960's sexual liberation revolution -accepting masturbation is often the first exposure to this agenda- has bore fruit like increased divorce, increased cancer, increased crime, increased drug use, millions of fetus' slaughtered yearly and increased violence. That is clear for all to see the abject social catastrophe.
There is no way to extract reliable data so any study of this is inherently flawed study. What we do know is how we feel and we surely can recognize what these organs were designed for. This is elementary common sense as all feel the guilt of transgression the moral law. Even if you accept masturbation -it seems that most do raised in this system- you are not going to masturbate in public or a bathroom and then brag about it among colleagues. Even among those that except it there remains a shame about it. This is your heart talking. Inside the heart it is clear that this action is a moral wrong. Only the head or id which is controlled by the passion of the act and filled with forty years ideological subversion (media provides the bogus data for rationalization as posted above) can rationalize this disorder as "normal" or even "healthy". The sensibility of the heart knows it is wrong.
This is the trials of being a man; we have so much brilliance and potential yet our flawed nature is predisposed towards disorder and addiction. Masturbation is disorder and is nature lends itself to be an habitual act. That is why the righteous man walks in the path of self mastery. Self mastery starts by subjugating internal passions. Either you are in charge of your passion or your passions are in charge of you.
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Rifleman has an excellent point.
Can you offer any modern day scientific evidence in support of your position?
Failing this, can you offer any logical (non-Bible-based) arguments in favor of your position?
Failing this, could you at least offer some personal or second-person anecdotal evidence supporting your position?
Of course god wants us to masturbate, he gave us arms long enough to reach, and thumbs (for the guys).
98% of people admit they masturbate, the other 2% lie.
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