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Old 07-27-2011, 09:52 PM
 
Location: Northern Va. from N.J.
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Proverbs 22:16 "He that oppresseth the poor to increase his he that giveth to the rich, surely to want."

Proverbs 28:15 " a roaring lion, and a ranging bear; a wicked ruler over the poor people."

Amos 2:6, 7 "...they sold the righteous for silver, and the poor for a pair of shoes; That pant after the dust of the earth on the head of the poor, and turn aside the way of the meek..."

Amos 4:1 "Hear this word, ye kine of Bashan, that in the mountain of Samaria, which oppress the poor, which crush the needy..."

Amos 5:11, 12 "Forasmuch therefore as your treading upon the poor, and ye take from him burdens of wheat: ye have built houses of hewn stone, but ye shall not dwell in them; ye have planted pleasant vineyards, but ye shall not drink wine of them. For I know your manifold transgressions and your mighty sins: they afflict the just, they take a bribe, and they turn aside the poor in the gate ."

Amos 8:4-6 "Hear this, O ye that swallow up the needy, even to make the poor of the land to fail, ...falsifying the balances by deceit. That we may buy the poor for silver, and the needy for a pair of shoes; , and sell the refuse of the wheat?"
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Old 07-28-2011, 02:01 PM
 
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Religious Leaders Arrested At Capitol for Budget Protest

http://blog.faithinpubliclife.org/Oh...kerBoehner.pdf
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Old 07-28-2011, 02:10 PM
 
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This is why America has separation of church and state and why this thread would be better suited to the politics category.
No it belongs here because it is a issue that is at the heart of the Christian message and what we as Christians are called to do, I also believe other faith systems have similar beliefs.
Sometimes certain issues are interwoven between religion and politics, war and peace would be another one, no Christian should be in favor of the illegal wars that our country is involved in.
But sad to say our government/military mixes them in.

Air Force Cites New Testament, Ex-Nazi, to Train Officers on Ethics of Launching Nuclear Weapons

To help officers answer these ethical queries, the PowerPoint presentation cites numerous examples of characters from the New and Old Testament fighting "just" wars.

Former Air Force Capt. Damon Bosetti, 27, who attended missile officer training in 2006 and was stationed at Malmstrom Air Force Base in Great Falls, Montana, said he and his colleagues used to call the religious section of the ethics training the "Jesus loves nukes speech."

http://www.truth-out.org/air-f...pons/1311776738 (broken link)

U.S. Rifle Scopes In Iraq And Afghanistan Feature Bible Verse Citations

ABC is reporting that soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan have been using rifle scopes that bear abbreviated references to Bible verses, including lines like "For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ."

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmem...hanistan_f.php

Maybe you should write your congressman and tell him that the government should not be mixing religion with government instead of telling me.

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Old 07-28-2011, 04:44 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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My church also have has a food pantry as your church and many other churches, but you know what, the demand out strips the supply.
we are also involved with many other social need programs, but you know what, the demand outstrips the supply, we are known as one of the more active churches in the area when it comes to social justice.
There are also other benefits at stake that all Americans have paid into such as Social Security which is not a handout!
We could cut the military budget in half and still out spend the world many times over. just look at the trillions we are spending killing people in Iraq and Afghanistan which goes directly against the Gospels.
Our govt. gives too much help, and it's causing a financial collapse. The govt. should only provide a very basic safety net.
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Old 07-28-2011, 04:45 PM
 
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When you grow up you will find that you will become more tolerant of people like John Boeher that may disagree with you.
So when will all the "grown ups" become tolerant of their black president speaking at Notre Dame?

I think that's his point.
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Old 07-28-2011, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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So when will all the "grown ups" become tolerant of their black president speaking at Notre Dame?

I think that's his point.
Big difference. Notre Dame is a private institution. John Boehner is a govt. official.
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Old 07-29-2011, 08:10 AM
 
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Letter from U.S. Bishops to Congress

1. Every budget decision should be assessed by whether it protects or threatens human life and dignity.
2. A central moral measure of any budget proposed is how it affects “the least of these” (Matthew 25). The needs of those who are hungry and homeless, without work or in poverty should come first.
3. Government and other institutions have a shared responsibility to promote the common good of all, especially ordinary workers and families who struggle to live in dignity in difficult economic times.
They go on to highlight and summarize what I think is the central theme of the letter, something that the bishops themselves write in bold print (the only section of the letter so formatted):
A just framework for future budgets cannot rely on disproportionate cuts to essential services to poor persons. It requires shared sacrifice by all, including raising adequate revenues, eliminating unnecessary military and other spending, and addressing the long-term costs of health insurance and retirement programs fairly.
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Old 07-29-2011, 08:39 AM
 
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Big difference. Notre Dame is a private institution. John Boehner is a govt. official.
Come again? Isn't the Church ALSO a private institution? And wasn't Obama ALSO a govt. official?
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Old 07-29-2011, 08:22 PM
 
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Religious Leaders Arrested At Capitol For Budget Protest (VIDEO)

Religious Leaders Arrested At Capitol For Budget Protest (VIDEO)
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Old 07-30-2011, 07:49 AM
 
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Moral concerns about poverty and the war in Iraq drove the religious vote more than abortion and same-sex marriage in the midterm elections.

Progressive groups say war, poverty topped voter concerns | The Christian Century
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