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There is a christian who devotes his life to God but lives an average life doing nothing to change the world substantially. Now consider there's an athiest that devotes his life to say curing the ill, he changes the world substantially in a positive way. Both are good people.
Now if God is a just God why does he not accept the atheist, he's a good person, why does he deserve eternal death? It is a very human thing not to accept those who don't agree with you. Why is he so egotistical, that only belief in him saves you from such a hellish fate.
Something isnt right here.
Resposes please!
There is a christian who devotes his life to God but lives an average life doing nothing to change the world substantially. Now consider there's an athiest that devotes his life to say curing the ill, he changes the world substantially in a positive way. Both are good people.
Now if God is a just God why does he not accept the atheist, he's a good person, why does he deserve eternal death? It is a very human thing not to accept those who don't agree with you. Why is he so egotistical, that only belief in him saves you from such a hellish fate.
Something isnt right here.
Resposes please!
Where did you get the apparent notion that one must be a good person in order to gain acceptance from God?
There is a christian who devotes his life to God but lives an average life doing nothing to change the world substantially. Now consider there's an athiest that devotes his life to say curing the ill, he changes the world substantially in a positive way. Both are good people.
Now if God is a just God why does he not accept the atheist, he's a good person, why does he deserve eternal death? It is a very human thing not to accept those who don't agree with you. Why is he so egotistical, that only belief in him saves you from such a hellish fate.
Something isnt right here.
Resposes please!
It sounds like you (like most atheists) are accepting theological definitions of God only to reject them. Why?
God is love, that which you worship, that which you are most passionate about, your "ultimate concern." He who loves most knows God the most, for God is love (so scriptures say, & so it makes sense). Aristotle said the Prime Mover (God) could only be both unchanging & inspire change by being ATTRACTION... And that is what makes this world, universe & everything in it continue according to each's own attraction to life or energy.
This attraction is happening everywhere, including within you.
If an atheist (or Christian for that matter) is clueless, or in denial, about his/her own psychology & attraction/experience of God, how can he/she be aware of the true needs of others?
I'm all for humanitarian work... that is effective, but some are actually counterproductive. IE: One humanitarian service was shipping used clothes to poor countries, which put many clothing vendors out of business because they couldn't compete with "free."
There is a christian who devotes his life to God but lives an average life doing nothing to change the world substantially. Now consider there's an athiest that devotes his life to say curing the ill, he changes the world substantially in a positive way. Both are good people.
Now if God is a just God why does he not accept the atheist, he's a good person, why does he deserve eternal death?
In Catholic school I was never taught atheists get "eternal death". That's more of a scare tactic created by poorly scrupled humans, IMO.
If somebody wants to be an atheist, that's fine by God. However, when the said person gets that deep, dark, empty feeling that something is very wrong, they can return to their spirituality or continue to live in misery. That misery is a taste of "eternal death" -- why anybody would want to experience such a thing when it's not necessary is beyond me.
It sounds like you (like most atheists) are accepting theological definitions of God only to reject them. Why?
It is the theist that imposes all the definitions of their god, the atheist just views any god as the imaginary deity of theists, often used to further their agenda or one of the many distorted interpretations of what he supposedly said.
It is not really rejecting the theological definition, but to use that definition to demonstrate how irrational the concept is. The UR/ET shall we say debates are such an example, describing the same god as everything from the nicest guy possible to the worst nightmare possible, all from the same book containing the theological definition.
Remember it is the theist (and their book) that "defines" their god, I am a poly-atheist, I reject all the gods.
There is a christian who devotes his life to God but lives an average life doing nothing to change the world substantially. Now consider there's an athiest that devotes his life to say curing the ill, he changes the world substantially in a positive way. Both are good people.
Now if God is a just God why does he not accept the atheist, he's a good person, why does he deserve eternal death? It is a very human thing not to accept those who don't agree with you. Why is he so egotistical, that only belief in him saves you from such a hellish fate. Something isnt right here.
Resposes please!
You have answered your own querstion. Humans made God in their image, so it is natural that that figment of imagination would have many of the same traits and characteristics as its maker, don't you agree?
Where did you get the apparent notion that one must be a good person in order to gain acceptance from God?
I guess some of us are just old fashioned, and believe that being a good person is very important. The bloodthirsty christian god (not that it exists) doesn't value goodness, only subservience.
I guess some of us are just old fashioned, and believe that being a good person is very important. The bloodthirsty christian god (not that it exists) doesn't value goodness, only subservience.
That really depends on which portion of The Bible you are focussing on.
I guess some of us are just old fashioned, and believe that being a good person is very important. The bloodthirsty christian god (not that it exists) doesn't value goodness, only subservience.
Quite so. The bottom line seems to be that, no matter what good or bad deeds people have done in their lives, Correct Faith (TM) is the key to Heaven and escaping the fires of Hell. Anything less than a Faith - based division and not much way out of it, religion has no stick or carrot and there is no reason to believe.
If one goes with the 'believe, or else' view, God looks such a tyrant that it beggars belief that such a being could exist, so again, there is no good reason to believe.
There is a christian who devotes his life to God but lives an average life doing nothing to change the world substantially. Now consider there's an athiest that devotes his life to say curing the ill, he changes the world substantially in a positive way. Both are good people.
Now if God is a just God why does he not accept the atheist, he's a good person, why does he deserve eternal death? It is a very human thing not to accept those who don't agree with you. Why is he so egotistical, that only belief in him saves you from such a hellish fate.
Something isnt right here.
Resposes please!
That's an oxymoron (bolded). One who devotes his life to God cannot do "nothing". Devotion to God is a motivator to good works.
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