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Old 05-23-2012, 12:28 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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Originally Posted by Boxcar Overkill View Post
I think it's ironic that the game Monopoly is made by only one company.
What? Oh, man, it's too early in the morning for me.

Buying Baltimore Avenue...

Mircea

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Agreed. Looking at it over its history, Christianity has been nothing but a source of pain, subjugation and death for many, many people on this planet.
And much of it for money's sake....seriously, the acquisition of wealth and riches for high church officials.

I've suggested they police their own, but in retrospect, I'll have to rethink that, due to the fact that much of this mess started when they began to police their own. They simply branded everyone as heretics and stared murdering them. Look at the poor Nestorian Christians, Eastern Orthodox, Cathars, Bogomils and others hunted down and executed in mass slaughters by the thousands and tens of thousands for dissenting or expressing a different view.

So, no, I don't guess I would want them policing their own. The world's had enough of that already.

Blasphemously....

Mircea
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Old 05-24-2012, 04:41 PM
 
Location: the Beaver State
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The best biblical evidence against christianity. Well that is obvious, the bible itself.
Seriously. That was the beginning of the end of my belief in the 'Bible.' The Pastor decided we were going to read one passage or so a week and he'd explain what it meant. Yet we ended up glossing over entire passages, frequently skipping over entire books even.
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Old 05-24-2012, 09:24 PM
 
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it would be good to find an Atheist who takes the bible more seriously than an episode of Family Guy.
If we took the Bible to be anything more than one of the more important works of ancient mythology, we wouldn't be atheist.

Think about it.
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Old 05-25-2012, 03:42 AM
 
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Well, what is it? I'm curious. I find evidence that stems from the Bible to be more compelling topics of debate than the more superficial things such as evolution, abiogenesis, the big bang, etc./anything scientific or philosophical.
What's the best biblical evidence against Christianity?

The Bible.
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Old 05-25-2012, 11:30 AM
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I don't know what's so hard about citing Biblical verses that may contradict each other or show some illogical statement...but ok....
Can you provide evidence from the DC Comics texts that prove Superman doesn't exist?
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Old 05-25-2012, 11:41 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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1. Leviticus
2. Deuteronomy
3. Judges
4. Exodus

Read all of those, while keeping in mind Matthew 5:17 and Luke 16:17--which both say that the Old Testament still applies to today.
Only if you are Jewish. All the stuff about not eating shellfish, not wearing clothes made from two different cloths, killing wwitches, gays, people that work on the Sabbath etc or any of the 613 laws of the Mitzvot, only applies if you are Jewish and yes, if you are Jewish, the laws do still apply today.

Christianity, when it jumped on the band-wagon saw all those laws that they just didn't want to follow so they made up the story about their man-god releasing them from the laws....not realising that those laws didn't apply to them anyway.

Now whilst some Christians might rejoice at discovering that they can actually eat lobster, they must also realise that they can no longer use 'you must not commit sodomy with a man' to castigate homosexuals because THAT law only applies to Jews too.

Poor Christians....now what are they gonna do!!
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Old 05-25-2012, 11:51 AM
 
Location: West Virginia
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Since an atheist is, by definition, a person who denies or disbelieves the existence of a supreme being or beings, why would you think an atheist would find anything found in the Bible compelling?

The fact that you find evidence from the Bible compelling does not even hint that anybody else does. I doubt that you can even get a consensus within this forum that science (such as evolution and abiogenesis) is superficial.


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Well, what is it? I'm curious. I find evidence that stems from the Bible to be more compelling topics of debate than the more superficial things such as evolution, abiogenesis, the big bang, etc./anything scientific or philosophical.
This is an equally valid question:

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Can you provide evidence from the DC Comics texts that prove Superman doesn't exist?
How could this NOT be real?

Faster than a speeding bullet! More powerful than a locomotive! Able to leap tall buildings in a single bound! ("Look! Up in the sky!" "It's a bird!" "It's a plane!" "It's Superman!")... Yes, it's Superman ... strange visitor from another planet, who came to Earth with powers and abilities far beyond those of mortal men! Superman ... who can change the course of mighty rivers, bend steel in his bare hands, and who, disguised as Clark Kent, mild-mannered reporter for a great metropolitan newspaper, fights a never-ending battle for truth, justice, and the American way!
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Old 05-25-2012, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Vermont
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Well, what is it? I'm curious. I find evidence that stems from the Bible to be more compelling topics of debate than the more superficial things such as evolution, abiogenesis, the big bang, etc./anything scientific or philosophical.
1. You're missing the point. As an atheist the burden of proof isn't on me to present any evidence against Christianity. The most overwhelming reason to be an atheist is the utter lack of evidence to support the factual claims of any religion at all.

2. It doesn't matter whether you find "evidence that stems from the Bible to be more compelling", unless you can present a reason to conclude, based on evidence and logic, that statements made by miscellaneous Bronze Age nomads are more reliable evidence of reality than the observations of reality made and interpreted by science, why would we ever use biblical arguments for the existence or nonexistence of anything?
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