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Old 04-05-2013, 12:08 PM
 
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The Big Bang turns out to be; not so big at all - just a whimper of sorts;

An unproven theory (within) another unproven theory.

Read the language carefully - It is easier to understand the bible in all its simplicity; than to understand these constantly evolving theories within other theories that are truly un-testable.

The bible was written for "children"

Psalm 119:130 The entrance of thy words giveth LIGHT - they give understanding unto the SIMPLE.
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Old 04-05-2013, 12:14 PM
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Institute of creation "research?" Yeah right....
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Old 04-05-2013, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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....snip....
The bible was written for "children"

Psalm 119:130 The entrance of thy words giveth LIGHT - they give understanding unto the SIMPLE.
Finally, some truth from Jeeperz!

Accepting the bible as inerrant does indeed require a childish mind.
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Old 04-05-2013, 12:47 PM
 
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There are only two schools of thought present today;

Nothing created everything

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

It is clearly "simple" for any child to discern the truth.
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Old 04-05-2013, 12:49 PM
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There are only two schools of thought present today;

Nothing created everything

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

It is clearly "simple" for any child to discern the truth.
So what created god?
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Old 04-05-2013, 01:28 PM
 
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There are only two schools of thought present today;

Nothing created everything

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

It is clearly "simple" for any child to discern the truth.
For the five billionth time: What created god?

The organization American Atheists should, rather than placing the signs they do up, place the sentence: What created God? on billboards in every town in the nation.

Second question: Why do people believe an organized universe is evidence of god? Before going that route, it would be best to show reasons to believe that god is intelligent.

I'd be more likely to believe in such things if miraculous things happened more often, doubly so if they happened after some form of prayer for them to happen by someone, or ceremony.

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Old 04-05-2013, 01:31 PM
 
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So what created god?
Oh, you got to it first...speedy.
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Old 04-05-2013, 01:39 PM
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There are only two schools of thought present today;

Nothing created everything

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

It is clearly "simple" for any child to discern the truth.
What we have here is:

Strawman and False Dichotomy.

Since JeeperZ is so high on scientific testing - How do we test this: 'In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.'

Only a child thinks as you do! A child also make many grave errors in thinking - as you also do.
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Old 04-05-2013, 01:53 PM
 
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So what created god?
A much better question might be asked -

Where did the sun originate and how do we test that (theory)

That would be a good place to begin since - without that sun no life could exist here on earth.

Sun's Magnetic 'Heartbeat' Revealed

We know for fact: The sun is about a million times larger than the earth

We know for fact: The sun is about 93 million miles (strategically placed) from our location.

It is the precise distance away - for life to exist. Millions of species all reside here on earth.

How ? when ? What ? brought the sun into a such precise and "CONTROLLED" position and composition.

i'm all ears for this explanation;
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Old 04-05-2013, 01:59 PM
 
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A much better question might be asked -

Where did the sun originate and how do we test that (theory)

That would be a good place to begin since - without that sun no life could exist here on earth.

Sun's Magnetic 'Heartbeat' Revealed

We know for fact: The sun is about a million times larger than the earth

We know for fact: The sun is about 93 million miles (strategically placed) from our location.

It is the precise distance away - for life to exist. Millions of species all reside here on earth.

How ? when ? What ? brought the sun into a such precise and "CONTROLLED" position and composition.

i'm all ears for this explanation;
I'll save the smart people some time here.

You haven't shown why god is intelligent yet. Implying that god is intelligent just gives you more work.



You have three jobs:
  1. show reason to believe god's existence is likely
  2. show why we have reason to believe god is intelligent
  3. show the reason to believe god likely created the universe, or the solar system
Once 1 and 2 are done, then perhaps an organized universe is evidence of it having been created by god.

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