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Although this looser might be insane it is just getting old how many times we here this line that the muslim, middle eastern guy who has RJS (Random Jihad Syndrome) is subsequently mentally unstable, insane, depressed, or some other excuse to forego the bad-taste-in-the-mouth that we might feel for those that subscibe to this culture or religion - the media just perpetuates this line of thinking trying to avaoid the obvious - he did it for allah and his religion. Now they are on to children playing in the sandbox. I guess honor killings, random murders of adults (homosexuals, woman, critics) and others who hold to a different faith are not shocking enough.
Agreed, and yet there are several here who ardently defend Islam as a perfect, pure and faultless religion. Yet they are oddly unable to point to where the pure version of it is, in fact, practiced, in peace and harmony.
You know, where it's not corrupted by chauvinistic males and power-hungry dictators. Let's see: M. Gadaffi, S. Hussein, M. Ahmadinejhad, O. bin Laden; various clerics and Imams. I'm sure the list is far longer. Such a barbaric rogue's gallery!
As well, as a group, Islamic proselytizers here on C-D fail to take any steps withing several free Western countries (the US, Great Britain, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, etc. etc.) where they are completely within their rights, and protected by our laws, to criticize the barbaric practices of real-life Islam.
Their only reliable on consistent answer?
"But... but... what can we do?"
One can only conclude that they tacitly approve of the primitive barbarism of Islam.
Agreed, and yet there are several here who ardently defend Islam as a perfect, pure and faultless religion. Yet they are oddly unable to point to where the pure version of it is, in fact, practiced, in peace and harmony.
You know, where it's not corrupted by chauvinistic males and power-hungry dictators. Let's see: M. Gadaffi, S. Hussein, M. Ahmadinejhad, O. bin Laden; various clerics and Imams. I'm sure the list is far longer. Such a barbaric rogue's gallery!
As well, as a group, Islamic proselytizers here on C-D fail to take any steps withing several free Western countries (the US, Great Britain, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, etc. etc.) where they are completely within their rights, and protected by our laws, to criticize the barbaric practices of real-life Islam.
Their only reliable on consistent answer?
"But... but... what can we do?"
One can only conclude that they tacitly approve of the primitive barbarism of Islam.
Couldn't rep you, but a bloody good post. The hypocritical handwashing...Look on the positive side..oh they are not practicing REAL Islam.
But they do nothing to rein in the worst apects. Nothing to clear up the misconceptions. And nothing to help those who are trying to counter this 'Fake' Islam.
Agreed, and yet there are several here who ardently defend Islam as a perfect, pure and faultless religion. Yet they are oddly unable to point to where the pure version of it is, in fact, practiced, in peace and harmony.
rifleman , i just chocked from your rational since many days
you will help me to change my idea about how far the athiests are objective and rational and sincere in thiere views and judging
someone was suspected to be muslim killed 5 year old boy because spirits told him to do that , while in the fact theire is no such beliefs about holy spirits which guide muslims
anyway , it seems to me that muslims should to be blamed for that because the crazy man said " allaho akpar " .
i don't think that commiting adultery while saying allaho akpar means that it became islamic
i just feel sorry for you guys . your hateness affected your intellegance
peace , rifleman
06-23-2010, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by elwill
rifleman , i just chocked from your rational since many days
you will help me to change my idea about how far the athiests are objective and rational and sincere in thiere views and judging
someone was suspected to be muslim killed 5 year old boy because spirits told him to do that , while in the fact theire is no such beliefs about holy spirits which guide muslims
anyway , it seems to me that muslims should to be blamed for that because the crazy man said " allaho akpar " .
i don't think that commiting adultery while saying allaho akpar means that it became islamic
i just feel sorry for you guys . your hateness affected your intellegance
peace , rifleman
He was not suspected of being muslim because spirits told him to do it but because he shouted Alahu Akbar when stabbing that 5 year old in the throat with a knife.
Why would you believe this piece of trash by diverting that fact and focusing on spirits making him do it - you think he might be looking to get a more lenient sentence with that line of reasoning? There have been dozens of articles that always spew this line of reasoning when psycho mulsims go on a jihad rampage - they sure do have a high percentage of the mentally disturbed in their population
They always seem to be middle eastern and muslim spouting some religous jargon while killing their victims - but we will just ignore that for fear of pissing the muslim Ummah off.
Pleas tell us what it actually means when someone kills another for adultery while saying Allahu Akbar???
I feel sorry for you - your stupidity and fear of being too critical has blinded you reasoning and ability to judge correctly. There are way too many of these incidences too be just psychos shouting Allahu Akbar for reasons other than religous.
As far as the 'moderate' muslims - do not trust them - the majority of them practice taqiyya and when given the opportunity will turn on this nation and its people. The more you run from this truth the greater opportunity you give them to be successful.
someone was suspected to be muslim killed 5 year old boy because spirits told him to do that , while in the fact theire is no such beliefs about holy spirits which guide muslims
Uuuuhhh... not exactly.
Islam is a syncretic faith combining Judaism, Christianity and pre-Islamic Arab paganism. From the pagan side they have retained the idea of Djinn.. supernatural tricksters who are fully capable of manifesting as "demons" and "spirits" to include episodes of possession.
So there is nothing unIslamic about a Muslim acting out evil "because spirits told him to do that."
Islam is a syncretic faith combining Judaism, Christianity and pre-Islamic Arab paganism. From the pagan side they have retained the idea of Djinn.. supernatural tricksters who are fully capable of manifesting as "demons" and "spirits" to include episodes of possession.
So there is nothing unIslamic about a Muslim acting out evil "because spirits told him to do that."
i can agree that the demons who inspired him , if that is the case then i agree
but is that mean that if demons succeed to inspire christian to kill someone , then it will be christian practices beause christianity believe in exisence of demons ?
i can agree that the demons who inspired him , if that is the case then i agree
but is that mean that if demons succeed to inspire christian to kill someone , then it will be christian practices beause christianity believe in exisence of demons ?
It depends on why he really did it.
Let's not mince words. Muslims and Christians have done worse and done it explicitly because, yes, they were motivated by their faiths. So sometimes the religion does earn being included in the criticism.
Is this one of those instances? I'm really not sure.
rifleman , i just chocked from your rational since many days you will help me to change my idea about how far the athiests are objective and rational and sincere in thiere views and judging
someone was suspected to be muslim killed 5 year old boy because spirits told him to do that , while in the fact theire is no such beliefs about holy spirits which guide muslims
anyway , it seems to me that muslims should to be blamed for that because the crazy man said " allaho akpar " .
i don't think that commiting adultery while saying allaho akpar means that it became islamic
i just feel sorry for you guys . your hateness affected your intellegance
peace , rifleman
Point is elwill, your religion has a real PR (Public Relations) problem in the modern world. Do you disagree? If an idiot chooses to utter "allaho akbar" or whatever while he rapes and murders, or bombs some people, then he is using your religion for his selfish ends, and you'd best do SOMETHING to stop it!
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Originally Posted by elwill
i can agree that the demons who inspired him , if that is the case then i agree
but is that mean that if demons succeed to inspire christian to kill someone , then it will be christian practices beause christianity believe in existence of demons ?
Again, you post a hypothetical but also unrealistic situation. I do not see, in any recent news stories, repeated, frequent and violent acts by organized Christians spouting "Go with God!" or "Jesus be Avenged!" slogans as they bomb, stab, mutilate, publicly stone or flog those who dare to disagree. But this is exactly what we Westerners see all the time in modern Islam. Are you denying that, or do you just deflect and say all those people are "just radicals"?
So what if they are? It's apparently the predominant behavior and thinking of Muslim men in the streets, and their mob action is no excuse!
So what's your point in the real world? Are you just being defensive? I'm trying to be a realist, and you're absolutely right: I do hate the modern manifestations of Islam because it's causing much death and destruction in this world, including that visited upon innocent women, children, the elderly and even spiritual young men who might be it's supporters if it were a peaceful religion. Given a choice and a means, I'd eliminate all the radicals of any religion; they always get carried away with their arrogance, ignorance and power-mongering. Right now, Islam is at the forefront of such abominations.
What would you do? Allow them to continue unchecked? Or would you congratulate them and say "Praise Allah!" as they light off another suicide bomb in downtown Tehran?
Well, obviously, Islam is not a peaceful religion now. Just watch the news and stop defending it for the sake of defending it! Open your eyes, elwill!
Last edited by rifleman; 06-24-2010 at 03:42 PM..
Reason: Clarifications & finishing off radical Islam! Good riddance!
The guy was obviously a nut bag. Why do we blame religon instead of the person and their out of whack skull pudding?
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