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I want to make this thread to discuss "revealed scripture," "divine scripture," "inspired scripture," etc.
Both in broad-general, or strictly specific terms.
How can we, as a human people, distinguish between the "correct religious writings" and their competitors, which often make the same or more grandiose claims?
I will come now and again to give my numbered points as to why the "internal" and "external" arguments of the validity of various religious scriptures are lacking and often even more than that, and everyone is welcome to criticize or add to the comments.
To be clear, you are welcome to steer clear of arguments against your religious writing and for the writing of your competitors, as you are welcome to post against the reasons giving by your competitors or for the reasons for your chosen scriptures.
I also welcome apt criticism to the reasons given, and hopefully we can all learn about the strengths and weaknesses of various arguments.
Last edited by LuminousTruth; 11-25-2013 at 07:10 PM..
Interesting as to why one would presume certain writings would be sacred or sanctioned by some divine spirit. I don't believe that any writing is divine or sanctioned by any one individual, it is merely the writing of man and is subject to man's fallacies. I'm of the opinion that just because it's written in a book, doesn't make it sacred.
There are no such things. It's just word play to conceal the fact that everything in the bible is a forgery.
An honest jew will tell you that judaism is just a bunch of made up stories. An honest christian will tell you that christianity is more of the same: new lies stacked on top of old ones.
So here is the most important revelation: the entirety of the bible is a lie.
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Originally Posted by LuminousTruth
I want to make this thread to discuss "revealed scripture," "divine scripture," "inspired scripture," etc.
Both in broad-general, or strictly specific terms.
How can we, as a human people, distinguish between the "correct religious writings" and their competitors, which often make the same or more grandiose claims?
But divinity is a tricky word. Do we mean outside the human mind's possible creation? If so, then we could not understand it. Do we mean true, if so, then there will be consistency, as in laws of nature. If there is consistency, then that means the process is physical and not of a conscious.
I want to make this thread to discuss "revealed scripture," "divine scripture," "inspired scripture," etc.
Both in broad-general, or strictly specific terms.
How can we, as a human people, distinguish between the "correct religious writings" and their competitors, which often make the same or more grandiose claims?
I will come now and again to give my numbered points as to why the "internal" and "external" arguments of the validity of various religious scriptures are lacking and often even more than that, and everyone is welcome to criticize or add to the comments.
To be clear, you are welcome to steer clear of arguments against your religious writing and for the writing of your competitors, as you are welcome to post against the reasons giving by your competitors or for the reasons for your chosen scriptures.
I also welcome apt criticism to the reasons given, and hopefully we can all learn about the strengths and weaknesses of various arguments.
Assuming that one does not do as my esteemed fellow -posters above do and regard none of the Scriptures represent divinely revealed truth (though they may of course contain some worthwhile ideas) one could either regard one set of scriptures as 'True' and the others as false, on the basis of faith, acquired at an early or later stage. This position is of course a personal one without any logical support at all and does not concern us.
What would or does is to look at the contents of the various scriptures and see what is indication of divine knowledge or wisdom that cannot be explained as human knowledge. This is particularly noted in the efforts to show that this or that Holy Book is historically correct about things we don't know or only recently discovered. The same applies to scientific truths found in the sacred pages written long before we knew about them.
We can also look for prophecies made centuries ago, but which came true and are coming true.
Over to you -all, and I trust you have kept your powder dry.
If a writing pertains to the betterment of the WHOLE of humanity, whether it be how we should live in harmony, treat ALL people with respect and dignity, take care of our planet, etc...I consider it inspired writing. If it, in any way, discriminates, subjugates, judges, or separates any part of humanity from the whole...it is nothing more than the writings of an evil individual and hogwash!
Assuming that one does not do as my esteemed fellow -posters above do and regard none of the Scriptures represent divinely revealed truth (though they may of course contain some worthwhile ideas) one could either regard one set of scriptures as 'True' and the others as false, on the basis of faith, acquired at an early or later stage. This position is of course a personal one without any logical support at all and does not concern us.
What would or does is to look at the contents of the various scriptures and see what is indication of divine knowledge or wisdom that cannot be explained as human knowledge. This is particularly noted in the efforts to show that this or that Holy Book is historically correct about things we don't know or only recently discovered. The same applies to scientific truths found in the sacred pages written long before we knew about them.
We can also look for prophecies made centuries ago, but which came true and are coming true.
Over to you -all, and I trust you have kept your powder dry.
The issue I see with this is that there are people who will come to understand the wisdom in their holy book and claim that because it was written thousands of years ago and can be applied today should be considered divine knowledge.
I will admit that I am projecting here, but when I reach a conclusion, and I think it is wise , I regard the source of my information as unique. But then when I come to city-data, I see that it is not all that unique nor is my conclusion.
I am guessing that if a person learns wisdom from the Bible, which is not a bad thing, but then claims divine wisdom, they probably have not read that many other books.
Well, I say divinely inspired things all the time and so do a handful of my friends.
Written divinely inspired words ? OK....
"If you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer."
Matthew 21:22
"Delight in the Lord and he will give you the desires of your heart."
Psalm 37:4
Tried and true.
Anyone with experience could have said those today....I do all the time.
"Ask, believe and receive." It's one of the secrets of the universe.
It's been maybe 7 yrs now that I tested and followed these instructions
and more like
them...I have never been happier...my friends of decades watch in wonder at my life.
So, point by point, have at it....but, I listen to people about how something tastes
who have actually tasted the thing...not someone speculating.
Well, I say divinely inspired things all the time and so do a handful of my friends.
Written divinely inspired words ? OK....
"If you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer."
Matthew 21:22
"Delight in the Lord and he will give you the desires of your heart."
Psalm 37:4
Tried and true.
Anyone with experience could have said those today....I do all the time.
"Ask, believe and receive." It's one of the secrets of the universe.
It's been maybe 7 yrs now that I tested and followed these instructions
and more like
them...I have never been happier...my friends of decades watch in wonder at my life.
So, point by point, have at it....but, I listen to people about how something tastes
who have actually tasted the thing...not someone speculating.
Are you saying that you can ask for something tonight and get it in the morning?
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, I regard the source of my information as unique. But then when I come to city-data, I see that it is not all that unique nor is my conclusion.
