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The same people you referred to that were hurt when the wooden boats showed up.
Actually, that's not what I said. I referred only to something learned because of the imposition of fundamentalist beliefs. Which is why I had to ask you who "his people" were/are.
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Actually, that's not what I said. I referred only to something learned because of the imposition of fundamentalist beliefs. Which is why I had to ask you who "his people" were/are.
Pardon me....I must have misunderstood what you said.
It seems like people like to equate good things with god and bad things with the devil.
Or sometimes people will equate bad things with "god is testing me"
Where does this sort of thinking come from?
Where does it come from? It comes from pure faith and the belief God is in control. This does not mean we always get what we want or the devil made us do it. My theory has been: God gives us the ability to do certain things: how we handle that ability is up to us. And yes, many people d think God tests us: I am one of those. God being in control does not mean God controls every move we make. I also believe everything that happens in our lives, happens for a reason, but not always for the best.
Where does it come from? It comes from pure faith and the belief God is in control. This does not mean we always get what we want or the devil made us do it. My theory has been: God gives us the ability to do certain things: how we handle that ability is up to us. And yes, many people d think God tests us: I am one of those. God being in control does not mean God controls every move we make. I also believe everything that happens in our lives, happens for a reason, but not always for the best.
I'm still waiting for someone to explain why an OMNISCIENT god needs to dish out tests?
What can an omniscient god find out from a test that he wouldn't already know through being, well, omniscient?
It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. None.
Like I always say, God is the 1st World problem solver.
Which is essentially saying that the more financial and personnel resources a person has, the more likely God will answer a prayer. Funny how that works, no? Because prayers are almost never answered without someone doing something to bring about the prayer's answer. The OP didn't get a pay raise out of the blue - there was a reason for it, and it had nothing to do with God wanting him to have it. Either he worked his tail off to earn it or it was a standard "cost of living" raise that most companies give out from time to time. To claim the raise had its roots in the supernatural is just plain barmy, as far as I'm concerned.
It reminds me of saying grace at the dinner table.
The farmer grows and harvests the crops, a truck driver transports the crops to a factory where workers package the food. Another truck driver transports the food to a grocery store where a grocer sells it and a cashier conducts the financial transaction. Then you and your family drive to the store, purchase the food with money you had to work for, then you bring the food home where it is cooked and served ... by you.
But when it comes time for the thanking, God gets ALL of the credit. I mean, where was God in that chain of events that brought food to your table? Nothing about your food came about through a miraculous event, nothing about your meal required a god to make it all possible. Yet God gets all of the credit while we humans do all of the work.
And STILL people think that God is in control. It's mind-boggling to say the least.
The farmer grows and harvests the crops, a truck driver transports the crops to a factory where workers package the food. Another truck driver transports the food to a grocery store where a grocer sells it and a cashier conducts the financial transaction. Then you and your family drive to the store, purchase the food with money you had to work for, then you bring the food home where it is cooked and served ... by you.
But when it comes time for the thanking, God gets ALL of the credit. I mean, where was God in that chain of events that brought food to your table? Nothing about your food came about through a miraculous event, nothing about your meal required a god to make it all possible. Yet God gets all of the credit while we humans do all of the work.
You would be surprised by grace in my family. Does God get thanked? Yes. So does the person(s) who worked hard to buy put the food on the table and the person(s) who prepared it.
You would be surprised by grace in my family. Does God get thanked? Yes. So does the person(s) who worked hard to buy put the food on the table and the person(s) who prepared it.
Durn progressives acknowledging the worker!
I'm shocked!
Dismayed!
Appalled!
Horrified!
Flabbergasted!
I even went out and bought a thesaurus so I could look up even more things I can be ... in response to your progressive Christianity.
I'm still waiting for someone to explain why an OMNISCIENT god needs to dish out tests?
What can an omniscient god find out from a test that he wouldn't already know through being, well, omniscient?
It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. None.
Like I always say, God is the 1st World problem solver.
Which is essentially saying that the more financial and personnel resources a person has, the more likely God will answer a prayer. Funny how that works, no? Because prayers are almost never answered without someone doing something to bring about the prayer's answer. The OP didn't get a pay raise out of the blue - there was a reason for it, and it had nothing to do with God wanting him to have it. Either he worked his tail off to earn it or it was a standard "cost of living" raise that most companies give out from time to time. To claim the raise had its roots in the supernatural is just plain barmy, as far as I'm concerned.
It reminds me of saying grace at the dinner table.
The farmer grows and harvests the crops, a truck driver transports the crops to a factory where workers package the food. Another truck driver transports the food to a grocery store where a grocer sells it and a cashier conducts the financial transaction. Then you and your family drive to the store, purchase the food with money you had to work for, then you bring the food home where it is cooked and served ... by you.
But when it comes time for the thanking, God gets ALL of the credit. I mean, where was God in that chain of events that brought food to your table? Nothing about your food came about through a miraculous event, nothing about your meal required a god to make it all possible. Yet God gets all of the credit while we humans do all of the work.
And STILL people think that God is in control. It's mind-boggling to say the least.
"Thanking God for the food on your table when millions of people to hungry every single day is like thanking a serial killer because he didn't kill YOU."
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