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Old 03-13-2015, 09:37 AM
 
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If we keep pulling away from Him, He will eventually leave America alone, what a disaster that will be. The OP sounds like a 10-year old.
Many people think he has already started to do this. The abortion epidemic, gay marriage, etc are simply evidence of him turning us over to our own evil desires, a la Romans 1.
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Old 03-13-2015, 09:41 AM
 
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Whoa - just ran across this thread... I want to know what God is doing that makes Him a "meany"?
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Old 03-13-2015, 11:49 AM
 
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I hate God Because if he exists then he wants to destroy America. I think he is a bigoted meany. Who else shares my concern here?
Wanting to destroy America and not keeping it from being destroyed are two different things. Many Americans, like yourself, have told God we don't want Him. We threw Him out of schools, don't let His birth be displayed on government ground and removed His name from the holiday celebrating his birth. You're getting what you want. God is removing Himself from our lives. As an added bonus those who don't want Him in their lives will be sent away from Him through eternity.
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Old 03-13-2015, 11:52 AM
 
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I hate God Because if he exists then he wants to destroy America. I think he is a bigoted meany. Who else shares my concern here?

Maybe it is you and all the other humans in America who don't believe in God who are destroying America.
Maybe God thinks all of you are bigoted meanies.

Who else shares God's concern here?
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Old 03-13-2015, 12:22 PM
 
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Wanting to destroy America and not keeping it from being destroyed are two different things. Many Americans, like yourself, have told God we don't want Him. We threw Him out of schools, don't let His birth be displayed on government ground and removed His name from the holiday celebrating his birth. You're getting what you want. God is removing Himself from our lives. As an added bonus those who don't want Him in their lives will be sent away from Him through eternity.
The Nazi's used the slogan "Gott Mit Us" God With Us. They obviously wanted Him. They put it right smack on their belt buckles. (Unlike say...Texans who seem to like putting a long horn or an oil well on their buckles for everyone to see). Following your theory that explains why God didn't wipe Germany off the map when they were murdering millions of innocent people.

Kinda. Sorta. In the strange world of people who believe God is mad at America because people say "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas."
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Old 03-13-2015, 12:36 PM
 
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AS someone who is not American I do find it amusing that so often people will state that God will punish America if it does x or y even though those things like same sex marriage had been legalized elsewhere without those punishments occuring. It is almost as if God only carried what happened in the States and whatever occurred elsewhere was not his concern. I had heard clips from politicans and church ministers a few years ago when same sex marriage was much more restricted in your country than it is now claiming that if it became legal God would punish America. But same sex marriage was legal in Canada and God was not punishing us (Leaf and Oiler fans may disagree).

Just an observation from the outside,
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Old 03-13-2015, 01:12 PM
 
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AS someone who is not American I do find it amusing that so often people will state that God will punish America if it does x or y even though those things like same sex marriage had been legalized elsewhere without those punishments occuring. It is almost as if God only carried what happened in the States and whatever occurred elsewhere was not his concern. I had heard clips from politicans and church ministers a few years ago when same sex marriage was much more restricted in your country than it is now claiming that if it became legal God would punish America. But same sex marriage was legal in Canada and God was not punishing us (Leaf and Oiler fans may disagree).

Just an observation from the outside,
Many people seem to have the idea that this country is God's country. I think that's the issue. Many think that we are special -- that God SPECIALLY created us in a way that almost rivals Israel. To punish us would mean that he would remove his favor from our country--as if he has ever promised to preserve the United States.

I don't see any reason to believe that our country is particularly special in God's eyes. Sure...it was founded by God-fearing men. Many of the first settlers in this continent were Christians...but I see no reason to believe that God has given any kind of special promise to preserve us. We may very well see the end of this country in my lifetime. It certainly seems that we are heading that direction.
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Old 03-13-2015, 01:16 PM
 
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Many people seem to have the idea that this country is God's country. I think that's the issue. Many think that we are special -- that God SPECIALLY created us in a way that almost rivals Israel. To punish us would mean that he would remove his favor from our country--as if he has ever promised to preserve the United States.

I don't see any reason to believe that our country is particularly special in God's eyes. Sure...it was founded by God-fearing men. Many of the first settlers in this continent were Christians...but I see no reason to believe that God has given any kind of special promise to preserve us. We may very well see the end of this country in my lifetime. It certainly seems that we are heading that direction.
In fact, God punished His own people for the exact same thing we are doing.

If Israel/Judah wasn't safe, I KNOW we aren't safe.
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Old 03-13-2015, 01:20 PM
 
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In fact, God punished His own people for the exact same thing we are doing.

If Israel/Judah wasn't safe, I KNOW we aren't safe.
Agreed. Romans 1 says that God turned them over to their own desires. I wonder if that's what we are seeing now. Americans want abortion? OK--God gives us abortion on demand. Americans want homosexuality? OK--we will soon have same-sex marriage in every state. It won't be long before marriage means nothing (as if it does anyway anymore).
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Old 03-13-2015, 02:28 PM
 
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Agreed. Romans 1 says that God turned them over to their own desires. I wonder if that's what we are seeing now. Americans want abortion? OK--God gives us abortion on demand. Americans want homosexuality? OK--we will soon have same-sex marriage in every state. It won't be long before marriage means nothing (as if it does anyway anymore).
Not only what you mention - but also the rejection of all things about Christ. Removal of ten commandments... removal of prayer from school... removing "under God" from the pledge... a growing course of sentiment to stop celebrating Christmas.
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