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Nice list showing what dogma, religions (state religions in this case) and dictatorships can do to our civilisation. And what is Christianity but a dictatorship with an (thankfully unsubstantiated and likely imaginary) all powerful and unelected leader at the godhead.
Show me a society......... that adopted the teaching of lucricious, einstein. Spinoza, Jefferson and so forth, implementing a democracy of the people, with free speech and a free press........ that descended into war and starvation and lunacy and death. There isnt one, so save yourself the effort.
As Sam Harris once said.... there is not a society in history that ever suffered because its people became too reasonable.
The Iran/Iraq war I don't know enough about offhand. If it was, say, primarily one of those Sufi / Sunni conflicts I would be okay with calling that a "Muslim" war. But if it was more about hegemony over borders or something like that, then that the religion of the two combatants was the same would be incidental.
Yes, the Iran-Iraq war was a Muslim war. Once Iran became an Islamic state, instigators inside of Iraq began stirring up trouble - including assassinating one of Saddam's top men.
Essentially it had to do with instigators, spurred on by Iran and Khomeini, to turn Iraq into an Islamic state, so Saddam went to war.
Is there really a point to this article? World War I was a Christian one?
Plenty of bloodshed by non-Christians:
Joseph Stalin - 42,672,000
Mao Zedong - 37,828,000
Adolf Hitler - 20,946,000
Chiang Kai-shek - 10,214,000
Vladimir Lenin - 4,017,000
Hideki Tojo - 3,990,000
Pol Pot - 2,397,0003
Justifying religious wars by denouncing non-Christian bloodshed is a bit like saying, "Why bother curing cancer when there are so many other diseases to cure."
Yes, the Iran-Iraq war was a Muslim war. Once Iran became an Islamic state, instigators inside of Iraq began stirring up trouble - including assassinating one of Saddam's top men.
Essentially it had to do with instigators, spurred on by Iran and Khomeini, to turn Iraq into an Islamic state, so Saddam went to war.
Thanks to our resident historian for that :-) I figured it probably was primarily or at least ultimately a religiously motivated war, but hate to make assumptions -- as you know what "they" say about assuming making an a__ out of people.
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Got it. The deflection gambit used by fundies when they have no answer.
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