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Old 05-20-2015, 04:30 PM
 
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Then I'm not a member of that "side". I'm a HUGE fan of free speech under the First Amendment and find the idea of thought control disturbing.
As long you agree with what's being said....
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Old 05-20-2015, 04:31 PM
 
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So Christian caterers could get around having to cater for homosexuals who want their service by saying 'we don't do widgets'?


Seems the best way out of an awkward situation I guess.





Have there been any instances where a Muslim or a Judaist caterer refused people on the grounds that those peoples sexual preferences were abhorrent to them etc?

Or is it simply the fact that all homosexual people want pork on the menu?
If the christian caterer serves chicken and fish, and the gay couple order chicken or fish just like any other couple, then the catered would be discriminating by not selling the gay couple something that they OFFER for sale.

Example.

Caterer: "here is my menu"
gay couple: "we would like the chicken ant the fish entree from this menu"

The caterer can not claim that they do not OFFER chicken and fish since it is right there on the menu that they OFFER.

IF the gay couple want lobster and the caterer does not offer lobster then the caterer does not have to make lobster for them.

IF I go to taco bell and order a taco they should sell me a taco, but if I order fried chicken they do not have to make it for me since they DO NOT OFFER fried chicken.
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Old 05-20-2015, 04:34 PM
 
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As long you agree with what's being said....
Not true.

But you seem happy being ignorant about other people's truths. So here: You get that so you can go to your happy place.

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Old 05-20-2015, 04:41 PM
 
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It's obvious nothing you're told permeates your brain.

And I know some people are happy being ignorant so here:
As I said...when we agree with your side, you folks are wonderful, peachy people.....when we don't? That's when the fascism comes out. True bigotry is when one is unable to accept the thoughtful opinion of other people. At this point the bigotry I see is from the side arguing for "equality".
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Old 05-20-2015, 04:43 PM
 
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If the christian caterer serves chicken and fish, and the gay couple order chicken or fish just like any other couple, then the catered would be discriminating by not selling the gay couple something that they OFFER for sale.

Example.

Caterer: "here is my menu"
gay couple: "we would like the chicken ant the fish entree from this menu"

The caterer can not claim that they do not OFFER chicken and fish since it is right there on the menu that they OFFER.

IF the gay couple want lobster and the caterer does not offer lobster then the caterer does not have to make lobster for them.

IF I go to taco bell and order a taco they should sell me a taco, but if I order fried chicken they do not have to make it for me since they DO NOT OFFER fried chicken.
Or maybe the caterer isn't necessarily refusing to sell something, but they have a moral objection to participating in an event.

Do you believe a black man should have the right to tell the kkk to pound sand rather than cater their event?
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Old 05-20-2015, 04:47 PM
 
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As I said...when we agree with your side, you folks are wonderful, peachy people.....when we don't? That's when the fascism comes out. True bigotry is when one is unable to accept the thoughtful opinion of other people. At this point the bigotry I see is from the side arguing for "equality".
I changed my response. Go back and get your smiley face.
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Old 05-20-2015, 04:53 PM
 
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Or maybe the caterer isn't necessarily refusing to sell something, but they have a moral objection to participating in an event.

Do you believe a black man should have the right to tell the kkk to pound sand rather than cater their event?
Then the caterer should not OFFER wedding catering services. Care to show me where the KKK is listed in any anti-discrimination laws? I seem to have missed that.
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Old 05-20-2015, 05:05 PM
 
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Then the caterer should not OFFER wedding catering services. Care to show me where the KKK is listed in any anti-discrimination laws? I seem to have missed that.
Seems like we are on the slow road to communism. I say, let's speed it up! Let the government provide and dictate all services.
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Old 05-20-2015, 05:05 PM
 
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Then the caterer should not OFFER wedding catering services.
Who are you to decide that?
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Care to show me where the KKK is listed in any anti-discrimination laws? I seem to have missed that.
Is that relevant? I'm asking you if you believe that a black person should be required by law to cater a kkk rally.
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Old 05-20-2015, 05:14 PM
 
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Seems like we are on the slow road to communism. I say, let's speed it up! Let the government provide and dictate all services.
So a business owner choosing to offer or not offer something in their shop is the government dictating?

No, the government only says that if you CHOOSE to offer something for sale then don't discriminate based on X,Y,or Z.
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