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Old 07-02-2015, 10:25 AM
 
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Morality is a human concept. The deity featured in the Bible doesn't know the meaning of the word it is so evil!
So then tell me when it would be morally good and just to torture babies solely for personal pleasure. It's it's merely a human construct, this shouldn't be a difficult question.
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Old 07-02-2015, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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So then tell me when it would be morally good and just to torture babies solely for personal pleasure. It's it's merely a human construct, this shouldn't be a difficult question.
When Viz reruns his favourite CARM themes, I feel like Bill Murray in Groundhog Day.
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Old 07-02-2015, 10:36 AM
 
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When Viz reruns his favourite CARM themes, I feel like Bill Murray in Groundhog Day.
It's a question that you and the usual suspects have been incapable of answering. You like to make fun of me for it, and you try to belittle me, as you have here...but you simply can't answer it. It's your thing. When youre argument is defeated, you start the ad hominems.
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Old 07-02-2015, 10:38 AM
 
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Still waiting for any atheist to tell me by what standard they can judge morality. I haven't seen one other than opinion.
I haven't seen anything from your side other than opinion, so it would appear we are in the same boat.

I'd say that an informed opinion on morality, based on a rational idea like "morality should be based on the idea of reducing human suffering", is better than morality based on blind appeals to authority.

Counter: this has been explained to Vizio 0002 times since 7/1/15.
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Old 07-02-2015, 10:45 AM
 
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I haven't seen anything from your side other than opinion, so it would appear we are in the same boat.
I will condemn any such action. God has declared that murder is wrong, and harming the innocent is wrong.
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I'd say that an informed opinion on morality, based on a rational idea like "morality should be based on the idea of reducing human suffering", is better than morality based on blind appeals to authority.

Counter: this has been explained to Vizio 0002 times since 7/1/15.
And you have yet to explain how your system of reducing human pain is the appropriate method to use to judge morality. You've made that statement many times..but you have yet to explain why that is the answer.
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Old 07-02-2015, 10:48 AM
 
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I will condemn any such action. God has declared that murder is wrong, and harming the innocent is wrong.

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In that case, your monstrosity of a god can add hypocrisy to his list of crimes.

He slaughtered million of innocents.
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Old 07-02-2015, 11:10 AM
 
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In that case, your monstrosity of a god can add hypocrisy to his list of crimes.

He slaughtered million of innocents.
You've made that lame accusation a hundred times...and you have never backed it up. I'm challenging you here and now to back it up. Can you do that?
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Old 07-02-2015, 11:17 AM
 
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You've made that lame accusation a hundred times...and you have never backed it up. I'm challenging you here and now to back it up. Can you do that?
If I could interject:

Examples of God personally killing people - RationalWiki
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Old 07-02-2015, 11:18 AM
 
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Give me an example from that of God ever killing an innocent person, please.
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Old 07-02-2015, 11:42 AM
 
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The evil deity was supposed to have flooded the whole world, even if all the adults were bad, which of course is crazy, what had the kids and babies done wrong?
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