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The evil deity was supposed to have flooded the whole world, even if all the adults were bad, which of course is crazy, what had the kids and babies done wrong?
Now wait just a minute....a few threads ago, you told me god didn't do it!
Now you're admitting he did but it's OK 'cause he had a reason?
Make up my mind Vizio.
(not that we're not used to seeing the stories, explanations and excuses change wherever it's convenient)
There is a large blurry spot in the middle, and this is the one that EVERYONE disagrees on. Examples
Is it moral for 1 person to die so that 5000 can live? I think so. I would have gladly shot those 19 terrorists on 9/10/2001.
Is it moral for 1 person to die so that 10 can live? Probably. One 90 year old man for 10 teenagers I think most people would agree to. I know if I were 90 and knew that my death would save 10 teenagers I'd go for it. (Women and children first!)
Is it moral for 1 person to die for 2. Uh oh. This isn't so clear.
There are many more examples. The "bible" doesn't spell out every possible circumstance. It can't. We all look at evidence and make tough decisions based on our environment, situation and experience.
It is wrong to assume that "god", let's say, hates gay sex that you should too. When in actuality "we" think gay sex is nasty, hence "god" SURELY must think the same way, therefore reinforcing our preexisting preference.
The zeitgeist, and therefore the morality of the day, changes over time. See slavery, antisemitism, and gay marriage.
This is however an illogical human ideal more like a square circle.
Then Heaven is a lie, because that particular square circle is what is promised after death. A world in which there is no suffering, joy, peace, and love forever more. If it can exist as the world to come, then God could have chosen to skip straight to that, but did not.
<edit> Sorry it only showed half your post. In Heaven there will be no freewill either, so it can't be that big of a deal. And on top of that, how much freewill can there be with an omnipotent God? Nothing can possibly happen that he did not choose to have happen, and there is no forcing his hand, so everything including death, disease, and hell are there simply for God's pleasure. There can be no other reason, unless God is limited by something greater still...
-NoCapo
Then Heaven is a lie, because that particular square circle is what is promised after death. A world in which there is no suffering, joy, peace, and love forever more. If it can exist as the world to come, then God could have chosen to skip straight to that, but did not.
-NoCapo
That's after the freewill division. Angels have a division, humans have another. After that , peace will come. God has foreknowledge to put whoever not qualified in heaven to divide during the earth period.
As for afterlife. God hid the Tree of Life from the reach of humans such that humans have no access to what would happen after death. The same day you choose to rely on your knowledge/intelligence to make a judgment to say that afterlife doesn't exist, the same day you shall surely die (Genesis 101).
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