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Old 06-22-2015, 12:41 PM
 
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Because God put Dr's on the earth to help heal the sick.

/s
1) No miracles are involved if a doctor is doing the healing. No God is needed.

2) Believers should have less need for doctor visits, since they can pray for good health. Or, when they get sick, they should recover faster via answered prayers.

3) Doctors cannot prevent things like accidents. God should be able to if people pray for safe travel, etc. So believers should pay less for things like auto and life insurance.
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Old 06-22-2015, 12:47 PM
 
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A). God does not write policies

B). Underwriters cannot determine the true Christians from the fakes and wannabes

C). Actuarials cannot determine actual statistics with accurate determination of the above to classify past performance on policy holders
D). Insurance companies don't want to lower your premiums. They want you to pay them money every month for 60 years just they can deny your claim.
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Old 06-22-2015, 12:49 PM
 
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1) No miracles are involved if a doctor is doing the healing. No God is needed.

2) Believers should have less need for doctor visits, since they can pray for good health. Or, when they get sick, they should recover faster via answered prayers.

3) Doctors cannot prevent things like accidents. God should be able to if people pray for safe travel, etc. So believers should pay less for things like auto and life insurance.
You missed the sarcasm tag
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Old 06-22-2015, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Florida
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OMG lmao. I always love the posts on facebook "God is looking out for us, my husband got x disease but by the grace of god he got over it." Umm....if god was so great he wouldnt have let you get x disease. Do you really want to believe in a god that gives you a disease then cures you as a way to prove his love? lawls.....
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Old 06-22-2015, 12:56 PM
 
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A). God does not write policies

B). Underwriters cannot determine the true Christians from the fakes and wannabes

C). Actuarials cannot determine actual statistics with accurate determination of the above to classify past performance on policy holders

Therefore, without supporting statistics there is no foundation for providing a separate rate on this basis?
A) No matter. Humans could write insurance policies that gave believers a discount, since they would be a lower risk.

B) You bring up a good point. Anyone could claim to be a believer just to get a discount. But this brings up another important point: if prayer really worked, everyone would be praying. In other words, everyone would be a believer...including the insurance companies. In fact, if prayer really worked, insurance companies would hire people to pray for their customers 24/7 in order to reduce the number of claims.

C) It would be possible to ask for religious affiliation (assuming anti-discrimination laws allow it) and then see if accident/illness/death rates were lower overall for religious people (and by how much). Of course, it may actually be that religious people have lower accident rates due to indirect factors like age and gender (possibly more older women in church than young men, for example, which probably means higher health insurance rates but lower car insurance rates.)
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Old 06-22-2015, 12:58 PM
 
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You missed the sarcasm tag
Sorry...Poe's Law in action.
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Old 06-22-2015, 01:01 PM
 
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D). Insurance companies don't want to lower your premiums. They want you to pay them money every month for 60 years just they can deny your claim.
Good point!

Dang, you ruined my whole thread.
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Old 06-22-2015, 07:27 PM
 
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If there is a God who protects the faithful and answers their prayers, then why don't the faithful pay less for all types of insurance? They should be a lower risk to insure than the general public, since God is looking out for them. Thus they should pay less for insurance.

Why is no one upset at this obvious injustice?
One could also include 401K's, IRA's, Annuities, and other financial preparations. The Bible even states to not worry about tomorrow, the Lord will provide.
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Old 06-22-2015, 08:58 PM
 
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One could also include 401K's, IRA's, Annuities, and other financial preparations. The Bible even states to not worry about tomorrow, the Lord will provide.
Thanks. I hadn't even thought of that.
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Old 06-22-2015, 09:04 PM
 
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Can you be more specific?

My understanding of God is this: he exists, and he answers Christian prayers. So it's only logical that Christians should have lower overall rates of illness, accident, and untimely death. And yet the insurance companies don't take that into account.
Do you believe that Christians are better people than anyone else who is not a Christian? God did not promise heaven on earth here promised Heaven.
Humans are human and humans get disease, illness, have accidents, etc. simply because they are humans and cannot avoid it.

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Classic!

That's exactly what Charles Manson told his flock. As with religions, the myriad contradictions within Manson's amalgamation of Dale Carnegie's salesmanship techniques, scraps of Scientology, and Christian fundamentalism inevitably brought up questions from the less-fawning members of the 'family'. For example, why did he preach peace yet beat them and kill people? Why were all people equal, yet blacks inferior and Jews to be despised?

Manson's rejoinder was that none of them were intelligent enough to see that, in fact, they weren't contradictions. It's an age-old technique for dismissing problematic questions, but it really only works on the gullible and those pre-disposed to swallow hook-line-and-sinker whatever is thrown their way by persons of authority.

And even the crudest and most transparent of charlatans have used it to great effect.

Do NOT compare my words with anything remotely close to Charles Manson. I am NOT that person, I do NOT have a "flock" I simply have my beliefs and my opinion.

If anything you should compare yourself to such an evil human being.

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Nothing but crickets so far...

No answer to why believers don't get discounts for all types of insurance?
What does "nothing but crickets mean"? Is that some remote slang term for something?

No matter how one tries to explain anything some people will never understand because they either refuse to understand, the refuse to look at a different point of view or they just do not get it and never will.
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