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Old 09-03-2016, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Ypsilanti
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Apparently God created Jinn made of fire before he made humans of clay, the Devil Was leader of the Jinn chosen by God and was a friendly being in heaven until... gasp.. Man was created!

God told the Devil to prostrate himself before his new creation of mankind, but the Devil says, " I am superior to them for I am made of fire and they of clay." Clearly this is the spirit of racism, however don't forget God chose him before he created man. For this position he was thrown out of heaven yet kept alive.

Jinn (not able to be seen by humans and possessing a horrible form) are able to incarnate as human and have a chance to get closer to God. So it definitely sounds like the leader of the Jinn could become human, and if that's the case, perhaps becoming human is what helps him realize his mistakes from the beginning.

I don't claim any of this as fact, but having a conversation with a friend about religion does make you think outside the box.
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Old 09-03-2016, 11:38 AM
 
Location: St. Louis
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Shirley that wouldn't just be self-reinforcing, now would it?
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Old 09-03-2016, 11:45 AM
 
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Shirley that wouldn't just be self-reinforcing, now would it?
What would be self-reinforcing? And why are you calling him Shirley?
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Old 09-03-2016, 11:46 AM
 
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Apparently God created Jinn made of fire before he made humans of clay, the Devil Was leader of the Jinn chosen by God and was a friendly being in heaven until... gasp.. Man was created!

God told the Devil to prostrate himself before his new creation of mankind, but the Devil says, " I am superior to them for I am made of fire and they of clay." Clearly this is the spirit of racism, however don't forget God chose him before he created man. For this position he was thrown out of heaven yet kept alive.

Jinn (not able to be seen by humans and possessing a horrible form) are able to incarnate as human and have a chance to get closer to God. So it definitely sounds like the leader of the Jinn could become human, and if that's the case, perhaps becoming human is what helps him realize his mistakes from the beginning.

I don't claim any of this as fact, but having a conversation with a friend about religion does make you think outside the box.
Who and what is "jinn" and where are you getting it from?
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Old 09-03-2016, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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I disagree.

Yaweh was the first racist. As a bonus, he was also the first narcissistic genocidal maniac.

He wiped out billions of innocent creatures because he decided he didn't like them.
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Old 09-03-2016, 03:09 PM
 
Location: On the brink of WWIII
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I disagree.

Yaweh was the first racist. As a bonus, he was also the first narcissistic genocidal maniac.

He wiped out billions of innocent creatures because he decided he didn't like them.
Sounds like the definition of a RACIST homicidal maniac to me. What would you call a person who did the same to their children?

Then think about this--After annihilating 98% of the world's total LIVING population and starting over--this is supposedly BETTER than it was???

Now tell me the OT god never saw this coming...LOL
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Old 09-03-2016, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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Apparently God created Jinn made of fire before he made humans of clay, the Devil Was leader of the Jinn chosen by God and was a friendly being in heaven until... gasp.. Man was created!

God told the Devil to prostrate himself before his new creation of mankind, but the Devil says, " I am superior to them for I am made of fire and they of clay." Clearly this is the spirit of racism, however don't forget God chose him before he created man. For this position he was thrown out of heaven yet kept alive.

Jinn (not able to be seen by humans and possessing a horrible form) are able to incarnate as human and have a chance to get closer to God. So it definitely sounds like the leader of the Jinn could become human, and if that's the case, perhaps becoming human is what helps him realize his mistakes from the beginning.

I don't claim any of this as fact, but having a conversation with a friend about religion does make you think outside the box.


If you want to think outside the box, the Biblical bridegroom is not black, but the Biblical bride is black.


It is an inter racial marriage.
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Old 09-03-2016, 07:04 PM
 
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Oh for crying out loud...

The Beginning

1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

26 Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness,

So God created mankind in his own image,
in the image of God he created them;
male and female he created them.

Genesis 2New International Version (NIV)

2 Thus the heavens and the earth were completed in all their vast array.

2 By the seventh day God had finished the work he had been doing; so on the seventh day he rested from all his work.


So PAY ATTENTION TO NEXT:

Lord God made the earth and the heavens. (they have already been CREATED by GOD. This LORD God MAKES things, not creates them; he also MADE another earth)

5 Now no shrub had yet appeared on the earth[a] and no plant had yet sprung up (while GOD already had all that going on HIS earth he CREATED)
7 Then the Lord God formed a man[c] from the dust of the ground (or from the lowest materials available)

You have two earths. Two gods, one GOD and one Lord God. One creator and one "maker". One created mankind in his image, perfect. One made human (one, btw) from junk stuff, dust of ground.

In Islam tradition, Jinn were created before 2nd Lord God started messing with making stuff he apparently had no idea how to. resulting in at fault product prone to sinning.

PS. Also, you hopefully "get it" that God created them in his image, male and female, hence, God is both male and female, hence God is IT. Neutral gender, carrying features of both man and woman.
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Old 09-03-2016, 07:13 PM
 
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I think that as the original redskin he has nothing to criticize other nationalities about. Beside, he should be worrying more about their creed than the color of their skin, don't you agree?
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Old 09-03-2016, 10:47 PM
 
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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I think the devil was the nice guy. It was that baddie guy called god who killed, maimed, tortured and murdered people and innocent babies and animals out of rage. He/it even created hell, a place of eternal torment. One sick dude that one was. Fortunately, there is no actual evidence of his/it's existence.
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