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But so many Christians assume that just because one is an atheist, that it equates with being liberal. Many of us atheists are quite conservative in many ways, particularly on fiscal matters.
Yes, there are conservative-liberals as well as liberal-liberals, extremes exist most any/everywhere.
If one is truly loving God, then they will not do something they know to be offensive to him. You reference the first part - to love the neighbor, but you seem to put the 2nd part of it about God on the backburner...at least in this post.
According to evangelicals our very existence is "offensive" to god-in-tiny-box. We are broken and insignificant and the only way we have value is by worshiping god-in-box 24/7 because outside of god-in-box we are just sinners destined for eternal torment..which in itself is a twisted form of logic--god-in-box created us to be sinners from birth, which means NO ONE has a chance to avoid eternal damnation other than to acknowledge god-in-box who is credited with making us sinners from the start????
So we are to worship a god that made us broken and sinners in hopes he allows us into paradise, which is not to be confused heaven, because god-in-box operated a multi-tiered heaven, because although the thief was allowed in paradise, that is not heaven because the thief had not earned entry to heaven..
The 2nd part of loving god-in-your-box is put on the back burner.
Jesus said we must LOVE OUR NEIGHBOR WHOM WE SEE before we can LOVE GOD WHOM WE CANNOT SEE...
It is impossible to LOVE that which we cannot see when we refuse to LOVE those we can see--OUR NEIGHBORS...
That kind of rhetoric really doesn't help the conversation.
Actually, it did. You just didn't like the downstream conclusions that it justifies, regarding the things you prefer, and you apparently thought by posting a comment about the comment instead of sticking to the topic of the thread you could deflect attention away from these concepts that you don't like.
That's because "women's health" often is not really about women's health. And as far as the lgbtq stuff? I honestly don't know how a person can claim to be a Christian and actively support something that goes directly against God's explicit commands.
Is a person not a Christian if we disagree on the role of government in caring for the poor? Is your answer the correct one? Is there any room for discussion?
No one is suggesting that we let people die in the streets. But we do disagree on what the best way to accomplish meeting needs.
Made my point! It is ALL about women's HEALTH...and LGBTQ CAN and ARE CHRISTIAN, MUSLIM, HINDU, and 99% of most other religions.
I honestly cannot figure out why any church would refuse / reject the LGBTQ community--perhaps there are examples of Christ turning His back on the least of these? Or people in general? Or divorcees? Or drunkards? REMEMBER, He made the BEST wine for those who were already DRUNK...
But so many Christians assume that just because one is an atheist, that it equates with being liberal. Many of us atheists are quite conservative in many ways, particularly on fiscal matters.
This is very accurate. I’m a devout agnostic and a conservative republican. I’m a strong republican on the economic issues, foreign policy, and immigration. I have disagreements with my party on religion and some domestic issues.
It’s very frustrating having discussions with christians, especially the ones that claim to be born again or evangelicals----they seem to be extremely thin-skinned and closed-minded to the other points of view. All they do in rebuttal is quote bible scriptures but can’t back them up with hardcore facts or scientific proof.
If one is truly loving God, then they will not do something they know to be offensive to him. You reference the first part - to love the neighbor, but you seem to put the 2nd part of it about God on the backburner...at least in this post.
Forcing anyone to follow what YOU think God wants would be offensive to God who seeks voluntary compliance, Would you agree, Vizio???
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