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Old 06-23-2016, 03:15 PM
 
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Cupper's posts draw you. You are offended by his posts about offensive clergy. These men are out there, and need to be exposed, and a light shined on their actions and words.


For someone who claims to love the Constitution, the free speech of others seems to bother you.

You are the only person complaining about being upset. You have a remedy and you refuse to take it.
I usually look at every new post. And yes--when someone posts lies, falsehoods, or simply attacks with a dishonest agenda I tend to respond.
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Old 06-23-2016, 03:27 PM
 
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I usually look at every new post. And yes--when someone posts lies, falsehoods, or simply attacks with a dishonest agenda I tend to respond.
This post is not dishonest. You simply do not like the content. You do not like your brethren exposed for being terrible people.

We are no longer going to help these men hide themselves. We are not going back to shaming the victims with our silence.

Get used to it, Viz. Cupper is correct. Your complaints fall on deaf ears, and are self serving.

You should be exposing these terrible people. Your complaining about Cupper protects these men.

Think.
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Old 06-23-2016, 03:30 PM
 
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These men need to be exposed at every opportunity.

From the sound of it these men are exposing themselves every chance they get
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Old 06-23-2016, 03:35 PM
 
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I usually look at every new post. And yes--when someone posts lies, falsehoods, or simply attacks with a dishonest agenda I tend to respond.
Vizio, every post of this type I ALWAYS back up with credible, third party information. They are not lies, right? They are not falsehoods, right? They are not attacks; how can the truth be an attack?

Let me repeat that.

How can the truth be an attack?
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Old 06-23-2016, 03:43 PM
 
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Vizio, every post of this type I ALWAYS back up with credible, third party information. They are not lies, right? They are not falsehoods, right? They are not attacks; how can the truth be an attack?

Let me repeat that.

How can the truth be an attack?
Why are you so fascinated by these stories?
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Old 06-23-2016, 03:48 PM
 
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Why are you so fascinated by these stories?

Why aren't you. These are your brethren. They harm others. They harm the flock.

I guess it is easier to protect them than reveal the evil things they say and do.

Cupper, I really love you for posting these things. Silence is the friend of every predator. They count on it from other ministers.
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Old 06-23-2016, 04:03 PM
 
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Why aren't you. These are your brethren. They harm others. They harm the flock.

I guess it is easier to protect them than reveal the evil things they say and do.

Cupper, I really love you for posting these things. Silence is the friend of every predator. They count on it from other ministers.
For starters, when I criticize anyone of a different denomination, people freak out on here and say I'm "denominational bashing".

Having said that, I'm quite aware that bad people do bad things. I get that. I'm not overly fascinated by it, though. Nor do I charge all atheists every time one does something wrong.
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Old 06-23-2016, 04:17 PM
 
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For starters, when I criticize anyone of a different denomination, people freak out on here and say I'm "denominational bashing".

Having said that, I'm quite aware that bad people do bad things. I get that. I'm not overly fascinated by it, though. Nor do I charge all atheists every time one does something wrong.

He is your brethren. His denomination is moot. Men of the cloth are harming children, and making excuses for it.

This is a lame excuse for not standing. So what if someone accuses you, and freaks out. Since when has that bothered you. Very convenient.

Think.

Cupper has a passion for revealing your brethren. And your passion is complaining about it.

Think.
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Old 06-23-2016, 07:41 PM
 
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Why are you so fascinated by these stories?
You avoided my question.

How can the truth be an attack?
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Old 06-23-2016, 07:43 PM
 
Location: In a little house on the prairie - literally
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Why aren't you. These are your brethren. They harm others. They harm the flock.

I guess it is easier to protect them than reveal the evil things they say and do.

Cupper, I really love you for posting these things. Silence is the friend of every predator. They count on it from other ministers.
Thanks, I appreciate the support. I get dumped on regularly for highlighting these and other abuses by a segment of society we generally hold to a higher standard. As such, they should be capable of surviving stronger scrutiny.

Anyone who is disgusted with these actions will not question why they are highlighted. Some, for some reason, feel they need to deflect and attack the messenger, not the message.
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