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Human beings have been recognized as "too complex and too meaningful" by some people, and that had lead to certain conclusions by the same group of people.
What about those other things? Are there things that are "too simple and too meaningless"?
Maybe some examples will help. Please identify the followings in terms of their meaningfulness and complexity (or their lack of). And please explain how you have reached such conclusions. Provide good reasoning, and refrain from using simple concluding sentences like "don't mean a thing to me", "there's nothing to it".
I'm really not sure what you're getting at but it seems to have something to do with complexity. Only one of the four examples is a living thing that is able to reproduce and is in a completely different category than the other three. A hurricane is a fairly well understood weather phenomenon in which the heat from ocean waters creates conditions that cause severe winds which can cause extensive damage but will weaken very quickly once they're over land. Water is just H2O, a combination of hydrogen and oxygen which is necessary for the existence of life as we know it and is also one of the most abundant things on our planet. A rock is solidified molten material that could be made up of any number of materials or combinations of materials.
I'm not sure what you mean by "too simple and too meaningless". It might be helpful if you could clarify the issue a little more, I'm not getting the point but I suspect it might be something about living things as opposed to nonliving things but I'm just taking a guess.
Hurricane: A simple condition where an atmospheric low pressure system will feed on the heat in the ocean; which results in increased wind speed, and large collections of moisture in the atmosphere. Global warming may redefine how large a hurricane can grow in the future.
Bacteria: A simple life form which can do good in some situations, and swing an angry sword in other situations. Without Bacteria we would have no cheese. That would be a sad situation. The killing side of bacteria is a two edged sword. I remember when my grandfather died of a bacterial pneumonia after a long battle with cancer. That bacterium was his friend. I have also watched it take lives way too soon.
Water: one part oxygen two parts hydrogen in its liquid state. What could be simpler?
Rock: Not enough information are we talking music, minerals, or what I do on my back deck.
Well, what I'm trying to get at is: some people say humans are too complex and too meaningful, therefore God created humans (their logic). Did God create other things (by the same logic)? If he did, what are the meanings?
(That is a well-known frequently used phrase by religious people, I did not know I have to explain it)
Well, what I'm trying to get at is: some people say humans are too complex and too meaningful, therefore God created humans (their logic). Did God create other things (by the same logic)? If he did, what are the meanings?
(That is a well-known frequently used phrase by religious people, I did not know I have to explain it)
Well DFW I guess you had better explain it. Some of us atheist don’t keep up with the "in style" religious phrases.
To answer your question everything is simple. It has been simple all along and was just waiting for us to understand it.
Well, what I'm trying to get at is: some people say humans are too complex and too meaningful, therefore God created humans (their logic). Did God create other things (by the same logic)? If he did, what are the meanings?
Thanks for clarifying, I thought that's probably what you were getting at. The thing about living organisms is that in order to exist they require an environment which of course is made up of mostly nonliving things such as the earth itself, air, water, minerals, and all of the essentials that are necessary for life to emerge. Yes life is complex, but certainly doesn't require some sort of divine intervention to come into existence. We've had a great many threads on evolution, one of my favorite topics, and there's no question that it is a scientific fact. We still don't understand the processes that nonliving material went through to become single celled life but we have a good understanding of single celled life from it's beginnings to the present day and new discoveries are being made all the time that reveal that life is the result of natural processes and not the result of anything miraculous or supernatural.
Well, what I'm trying to get at is: some people say humans are too complex and too meaningful, therefore God created humans (their logic). Did God create other things (by the same logic)? If he did, what are the meanings?
(That is a well-known frequently used phrase by religious people, I did not know I have to explain it)
I suspect the faithful will say all the simpler things in life (rocks, etc.) were created for man to use and abuse at his expense.
A). Hurricane - judgment against teh wikked southerners for (insert reason here) livin below see levul
B). Bacteria - small critters that I no nuthin about if I canna see it it doesn't exist
C). Water - for baptizmz
D). Rock(s) - fer stoning teh wikked
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Way over my head. 
