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Old 06-02-2017, 06:41 PM
 
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El-o-Hym = El-o-Qum = Son of El = Son of God

https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang...gs=H6965&t=KJV

https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang...gs=H1121&t=KJV
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Old 06-02-2017, 11:32 PM
 
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Already posted my argument as per my logic on this in another thread.

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The "kind" and "nature" doesn't change.

For example, If you have a goat and you take it out and tell people that it's your son, perhaps no one will believe you because a human's son is always a human.

A goat's son will always be a goat.

An elephant's son is always be an elephant. You follow me?

So a God's son must also be a God. Agreed?

So by logic and reason, Jesus is God, because he is the Son of God. Agreed?


Now, 2 points to ponder here.

1 - Jesus prayed and worshiped. Who did Jesus pray to? God, by definition, does not pray to ANYONE!

2 - Jesus was asked when will the last arrive? He said "I don't know!".

For Jesus to be God, he MUST have to know this. A God, by definition, will NEVER say "I don't know"

So, IMO (and it's only my opinion) from point 1&2 Jesus cannot be God. And if he is not God then he is also NOT the son of God because a son of God must also be a God.
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Old 06-02-2017, 11:34 PM
 
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The phrase "of God" means "infinite"

Ancient people used the word "all" the same way we use the word "infinity"
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Old 06-02-2017, 11:54 PM
 
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Already posted my argument as per my logic on this in another thread.
You will be a son "of God" someday

King James Bible
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name
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Old 06-03-2017, 12:01 AM
 
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You will be a son "of God" someday

King James Bible
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name
And those who may end up in hell will be what, someday? Son of what? Devil?

Or the devil is also son of God, because devil could also be part of infinity.
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Old 06-03-2017, 01:10 AM
 
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Devil is not son "of God"

Devil is adversary "of God"

Devil is infinite adversary.
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Old 06-03-2017, 03:13 AM
 
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Devil is not son "of God"

Devil is adversary "of God"

Devil is infinite adversary.
Logically speaking, you cannot have two infinities in one space.

God created man and you are saying that man is part of God which is infinite.

God also created the devil or Satan; how come the same logic is no applied to him?
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Old 06-03-2017, 08:24 AM
 
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Logically speaking, you cannot have two infinities in one space.

God created man and you are saying that man is part of God which is infinite.

God also created the devil or Satan; how come the same logic is no applied to him?

Because each one"s logic is expression of each one's opinion. Tongue is an organ that has no bones, can be twisted whichever way one wishes.
That's the logic.
GC, seriously, how can there be any logic in religious or pseudo religious discussions? Faith per definition is irrational. rational faith is SCIENCE.
I get it, give GP a tease but, otherwise - it's useless use of pixels and bandwidth.

God and Satan is SAME. Simply two poles of the same energy, so to speak. Also, a major matter of one's perspective.
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Old 06-03-2017, 08:26 AM
 
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"Say at last - who are you thou?"
"That Power I serve
Which wills forever evil
Yet does forever good"

Goethe, Faust
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Old 06-03-2017, 08:26 AM
 
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Devil is not son "of God"

Devil is adversary "of God"

Devil is infinite adversary.
Now take a minute and think about this.....


How did the devil come to exist and why?
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