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Old 05-24-2017, 11:10 PM
 
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I believe is necessary that one has an understanding of the different religions instead of jumping into condemnation of other religion.
Here is one summary on Hinduism in comparison to Christianity and Islam.

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Hindus can often struggle to explain the immense diversity in their religion, especially in comparison to Christianity and Islam.
This video outlines why it is that Hinduism is so very different to the western Abrahamic faiths. Christianity and Islam are essentially salvation theologies which look to save individuals from an eternity of hell, while eastern religions are based on attaining higher states of consciousness.
This, as well as other root ideas are the reasons why there are huge differences between the faiths. Once these are understood explaining Hinduism to the other becomes far easier and comprehensible.


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Old 05-25-2017, 08:30 AM
 
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Heaven and hell are the same.
https://oca.org/orthodoxy/the-orthod...eaven-and-hell

Christianity focuses on the negative while Hinduism focuses on the positive
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Old 05-25-2017, 11:34 AM
 
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I believe is necessary that one has an understanding of the different religions instead of jumping into condemnation of other religion.

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Hindus can often struggle to explain the immense diversity in their religion, especially in comparison to Christianity and Islam.
This video outlines why it is that Hinduism is so very different to the western Abrahamic faiths. Christianity and Islam are essentially salvation theologies which look to save individuals from an eternity of hell, while eastern religions are based on attaining higher states of consciousness.
This, as well as other root ideas are the reasons why there are huge differences between the faiths. Once these are understood explaining Hinduism to the other becomes far easier and comprehensible.
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Hinduism is a salvation religion just like any of them, however it doesn't appear to me to be as hyper-fearful as the Abrahamic (baby animal bisection fertility-power pact) religions.

Hinduism purports itself to save you from their conceptualization of the mundane world... but I'm sure there are Hindu denominations that also add extra, even worse, possible existences (hells).

Abrahamic religions purport to save you from their concept of the mundane world
AND always from an extra, even worse, possible existence (hell and/or lack of God).

Like the O.P. video says:

One key difference is that Hinduism (mostly) doesn't purport such salvation to be ever and immediately important, while Abrahamism (including Judaism which prophecies that non-Jews will all worship Yahweh and respect Jews as their superior brothers) does put more emphasis of converting others (even if it is only converting others to Monotheism by demonstration rather than argument).

Another is that most Abrahamic denominations purport exclusivity and claim that non-Abrahamic religions are simply not valid, while most Hindu denominations do not purport exclusivity but would claim that Abrahamic religions are just as valid as theirs.

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Old 05-26-2017, 11:35 PM
 
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Another is that most Abrahamic denominations purport exclusivity and claim that non-Abrahamic religions are simply not valid, while most Hindu denominations do not purport exclusivity but would claim that Abrahamic religions are just as valid as theirs.


Zakir Naik's religion has this extra twisted elements of condoning evils & violence and he has the guile to condemned and put down the religions of others.

The main thrust of many Hindu religions is not idol-worshiping but rather towards monotheism.
The Hindus [and some others] understand the inevitable unavoidable human nature which comes in rainbow colors and thus not mono in nature.
Being pragmatic, the Hindu scholars introduced idol worshiping for those at the kindergarten and lower levels to get closer to the monotheistic God with the hope they will truly progress towards pure monotheism, but if not at least they are getting somewhere.

With Islam, the Muslims are thrown into monotheism regardless of their competency and ability to align with such a doctrine. For example if we throw someone with a competency that max at kindergarten standard straight into a graduate class, then the person will not learn anything and could even wreck the person's intellectual capability.

The Quran did state, do your best in accordance to your competency.
But what the Quran is ignorant of is natural proclivity and tendencies of a person.
Some people are born with inclinations for the arts and just cannot appreciate Maths and Science no matter how hard they try.
Thus for the person who do not have that potential for the sort of monotheism in Islam, they will not succeed no matter how best they try and thus will end up a failure in spirituality. This is real within Islam where the failures end up committing terrible evils and violence when they are influenced by the inherent elements in the Quran and the religion.

The majority of humans has a stronger inclination to worship God via intermediate means rather than directly trying to understand God. Therefore Islam [rigid monotheism in doctrines] is not an efficient religion in this aspect.

This is why for the majority of Muslims are subliminally driven to worship something intermediate is veered toward worshiping the black stone in the Kaaba, Muhammad their supposedly hero, their clergy, Ayatollahs, and such diversion turned malignant as evident by the glaring terrible evils and violence by SOME Muslims.
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Old 05-27-2017, 03:38 PM
 
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I am afraid, what is discussed here is outward interpretations of both, mostly as organized religions, without looking into essence of them. In essence, they are same. .
There are a number of major differences between Hinduism and Christianity. Here are just two to start with.

Hinduism: One must live many, 100s or 1000s of lifetimes to be perfected and achieve the goal of uniting with the cosmic consciousness wherein you lose your individual identity. Mr5150 will cease to exist as a person. And they worship 100s of gods and have idols for each one. The universe was never created, but always existed.

Christianity: You only live one life. If one trusts in Jesus then you are guaranteed to reach the goal of Heaven and the new Earth. And you retain your individual identity. I'll still be Mr5150 in Heaven. We worship the one God who created the Universe and everything about it including life and the laws of nature. The Holy spirit is the aspect of God which interacts with His people. Jesus was a man, who instead of having a regular soul, had the very spirit of God as His animating force.
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Old 05-29-2017, 09:30 PM
 
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Hinduism: Why so many Gods?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3iiJ7hAUaU
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Old 05-31-2017, 08:10 PM
 
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I believe is necessary that one has an understanding of the different religions instead of jumping into condemnation of other religion.
Here is one summary on Hinduism in comparison to Christianity and Islam.





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I disagree with your premise. It is enough if one can understand one's own religion well and act as a good citizen and take care of one's business and be a good person and not condemn anybody.
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Old 05-31-2017, 08:19 PM
 
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There are a number of major differences between Hinduism and Christianity. Here are just two to start with.

Hinduism: One must live many, 100s or 1000s of lifetimes to be perfected and achieve the goal of uniting with the cosmic consciousness wherein you lose your individual identity. Mr5150 will cease to exist as a person. And they worship 100s of gods and have idols for each one. The universe was never created, but always existed.

Christianity: You only live one life. If one trusts in Jesus then you are guaranteed to reach the goal of Heaven and the new Earth. And you retain your individual identity. I'll still be Mr5150 in Heaven. We worship the one God who created the Universe and everything about it including life and the laws of nature. The Holy spirit is the aspect of God which interacts with His people. Jesus was a man, who instead of having a regular soul, had the very spirit of God as His animating force.
Hinduism believes we are ALL Jesus, and have God as our animating force. Only a few of us, like Jesus, Ramakrishna, Buddha have realized that truth in their personal life. That was Jesus's message as well to the Jews.
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Old 05-31-2017, 08:59 PM
 
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Hinduism believes we are ALL Jesus, and have God as our animating force. Only a few of us, like Jesus, Ramakrishna, Buddha have realized that truth in their personal life. That was Jesus's message as well to the Jews.
"ALL" ??
So Jeremy Joseph Christian, Daylan Roof, Hitler, Bin Ladin, Narendra Modi, Ariel Sharone, Ted Bundy etc are equivalent to Jesus and God has animated into them?
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Old 05-31-2017, 09:24 PM
 
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Yes. they are all god. They all have god particle in them. It can not be otherwise, as everything is god. Literally. Creator is in creation continuously creating a more perfect creation.
There is story about this...
A famous Sufi mystic lived in a village that had a local who became a pest to everyone.
Eventually, he so much got under everyone;s skin, that delegation approached the mystic and asked him to ask god to rid their village of this pest.
Mystic fell into deep prayer, following the request.
Suddenly, he heard a booming voice, saying - If I tolerate that person, who is creation of mine - who are you to ask otherwise?

Unfortunately, our opinions are based on a short life. We do not see the entire span of someone's existence.
As an excellent visual aid, I'd suggest The Groundhog Day.
In it, main character is cursed with remembering previous lives.
You may want to watch it attentively, as it has very good insight on what stages a re-existing Self goes through.

Namaste
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