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It reminds me of the time I got lost in the bush. I was following a trail on my map down a spur to a stream that flowed from right to left. But when I came to the stream it was flowing uphill! From left to right! I was very disorientating and very difficult to get my bearing right again. I was convinced that stream flow the other way. Well, I had veered off a bit and had come to a different stream, one the joined the target stream a short distance on.
I guess this is how it is for these folks. In their minds they think it is one way and when the hard evidence shows it's another way, they disbelieve the evidence. Even to the extent of thinking the stream is flowing uphill!
God certainly does snot exist in the minds of many. It's just that you can't establish in any way that He doesn't. A God who does exist is any way is One you need to concern yourself with.
How exactly do you establish that something does NOT exist, other than to point out that no such thing is anywhere to be found? Many believers are offended when non believers compare the Flying Spaghetti Monster to God. But you see, the two things that God and the Flying Spaghetti Monster definitely do have in common is that neither are anywhere to be found, and NEITHER can be proven not to exist. And because of these facts they can be assigned any attributes that anyone chooses to assign to them.
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It's ok to believe an delusion and myth - but it has to be the right one.
I did not say that.
I ment to believe in the Moses and Jesus and Mahammad and the others prophets the true prohets
The Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessing of Allah be upon him) said
By Him in Whose hand is the life of Muhammad,
he who amongst the community of Jews or Christians hears about me,
but does not affirm his belief in that with which I have been sent
and dies in this state (of disbelief),
he shall be but one of the denizens of Hell-Fire.
And where in the Gospels does Jesus ever suggest that one should disbelieve what happens in front of his eyes, if someone swears on the Quran that it didn't happen. What a hoot from the religion that purports to disprove atheism on the grounds that they wouldn't believe Islam even if there was incontrovertible evidence.
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may be Jesus thought that the man is stealing and to know how important this declaration is
" by Allah, except Whom there is None who has the right to be worshipped'"
God certainly does snot exist in the minds of many. .
I agree. God is snot!
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Utter cheek and dishonesty. I have explained discrepancies three times and you have simply ignored them and now demand I 'prove' them (a stock Eusebian ploy - if you deny everything, it hasn't been proved) I have posted them - now it's down to you to show they are NOT contradictions.
Why do you bother with this tripe my dear old hosepipe. Both you and I have had enough dialogue with this poster to know that it is Eusebius resurrected. Exactly the same arguments presented in exactly the same way with exactly the same denials and refusals to answer questions from anyone whilst demanding that we answer his questions. It's Eusebius to a T! Ignore him and he'll go away...to re-emerge with another alias shortly.
I understand that you know everything I wrote was valid and true, and you usually reserve the Flying Pig for things that are not objectively meritorious like my post was...but I still dig that picture.
may be Jesus thought that the man is stealing and to know how important this declaration is
" by Allah, except Whom there is None who has the right to be worshipped'"
And maybe not. And maybe the muslim writers put a lot os self -serving quotes into jesus' mouthfor their own polemic purpoes, just as the paulinits Greek Christians put a load of their self -serving views into Jesus the mouth of The Jewish messianist Jesus really was.
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I did not say that.
I ment to believe in the Moses and Jesus and Mahammad and the others prophets the true prohets
The Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessing of Allah be upon him) said
By Him in Whose hand is the life of Muhammad,
he who amongst the community of Jews or Christians hears about me,
but does not affirm his belief in that with which I have been sent
and dies in this state (of disbelief),
he shall be but one of the denizens of Hell-Fire.
No, but you should. As clearly believing in Moses, and abrahan and Jesus and the Ark will still see you burning in the hellfire you speak of - unless one believes in the Koran and Mohammed (variously spelt, and since you have come up with Mahammad, I can't be bothered trying to get it "Right") so, the delusion and myth has to be the right one - or you burn. Of course the Jesus believers say the same about you.
If you want to find someone who doesn't think either of you wil burn, you need an atheist.
Utter cheek and dishonesty. I have explained discrepancies three times and you have simply ignored them and now demand I 'prove' them (a stock Eusebian ploy - if you deny everything, it hasn't been proved) I have posted them - now it's down to you to show they are NOT contradictions.
To say you have proved anything is utter cheek and dishonesty. I have showed they are not contradiction. Your problem is that you are not able to understand what I say. You don't even know that asking is not demanding, but you like to embellish your remarks thinking they will add to your comments. Think again,
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The museums full of verified evidence, the verified evidence of DNA, which you dismissed with a display of double standards (1) and the in your face morphological evidence that you simply (as Eusebius) refused to look at.
Then it should be easy for you to post some examples, but since you don't really understand
DNA or scientific evidence, you are unable to do so.
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Game over, as I said, despite your whingeing.
You'll be back, but if not have a+ day.
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(1) ignoring the 90 -odd % DNA links for primates than with other bioforms - which is a relationship -pattern that holds throughout the biosphere, and saying the few percent difference means there in no genetic relation.
I didn't ignore it, I explained it but evidently you don't understand even the simmple things about DNA.
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