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Gotcha but i was taking whether I have to do something during the actual ceremony
I think at some point you might hold the child but again, am not positive. It's been a while. I think it's mostly a matter of being there and promising to care for the child should the parents be unable.
Not a biggie, ceremony-wise.
Possibly a biggie, should life's events determine such.
It's a regular catholic baptism.. is their anything I specifically have to do during the ceremony?
What I would do is wonder why infant baptism is practised when there is No infant baptism in Scripture.
Before public Christian baptism a person needs to make his or her own dedication to God to do God's will.
No one was used as a godfather or a godmother for anyone in Scripture.
Minor children are already covered by believing parents according to 1st Corinthians 7:14.
I think at some point you might hold the child but again, am not positive. It's been a while. I think it's mostly a matter of being there and promising to care for the child should the parents be unable.
Not a biggie, ceremony-wise.
Possibly a biggie, should life's events determine such.
I'm a Godfather to three now-young-adults.
Thankfully, their parents are alive and well.
I would pay money to see Trout make sure of their education in the catholic faith.
I would pay money to see Trout make sure of their education in the catholic faith.
It would be easy!
I still have a couple of siblings who are reasonably-ardent Catholics. They would be happy to carry the ball on Sundays.
I would simply counsel them to be good people, in or outside church, whether they remained believers or not. And that fact, not my attendance at church, is why I was asked to be a Godfather.
What I would do is wonder why infant baptism is practised when there is No infant baptism in Scripture.
Before public Christian baptism a person needs to make his or her own dedication to God to do God's will.
No one was used as a godfather or a godmother for anyone in Scripture.
Minor children are already covered by believing parents according to 1st Corinthians 7:14.
Well, supposedly Paul wrote that letter in response to Christians in the Church of Corinth, not knowing it would become seen as par-on-par with prophet-written scripture (of which he supposedly says that the letter kills but the spirit gives life). On the other hand, in the gospels Jesus directly speaks that no one is saved (or enters kingdom or something) unless they are baptized by spirit/air/breath AND water.
In the section you are quoting (although in many sections this supposed Paul says he is conveying God's words/commands/laws directly) Paul directly says that these are his own ideas and understandings because of his application of logic/common-sense to the situation. He says "you don't know if you'll save (convert/indoctrinate) your children properly, so just believe they are 'holy' (rather than saved in specific terms) anyway, since you are now an amazing holy thing, so are the people that God joins to you" (even if they had not joined the crony side of monotheist fascism).
The Catholics really think that their paid Bishop ancestors had the "Holy Spirit" in them when they quarreled and thought about which canons to keep and which to let fall away, so they think Jesus' thing as stated in the 4 gospels they chose is a little bit more important than what Paul taught in his supposed letters. Besides, since Paul is being vague, a faithful mental gymnastic could even take his suggestion to mean that every person after a Christian's lineage is simple "immortal and deserving of heaven" regardless of if they believe or not.
1st Corinthians 7:14 is not about children from fetus (they believed in quickening, I think) to around 4 years old or into their teen age years, whatever arbitrary time we decide they are mentally capable of choosing to side with our benevolent martial fascism. And even if it was, the gospel is sort of clear (maybe?) by what "no one not baptized by air/spirit/breath and water will enter/be saved" means.
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It's a regular catholic baptism.. is their anything I specifically have to do during the ceremony?
As an agnostic who is aware that all anti-agnostic/non-agnostic religions are false and full of error: I've been to a Catholic baptism relatively recently, the memory is foggy, but
1. They have sort of their normal mass stuff, usually lots of other people's babies/children at the same time too.
2. a water bowl out, the priest makes people line up with babies,
3. then they make a cross with water on the baby or something, saying some stuff,
4. the godparents line up and make their vows to help the baby (and spiritually/Catholic-wise).
(I believe everything has been pre-paid and tax-exempt, but you can donate extra money to the church at the end of the ceremony if "your love of God" wills it at the time. Collection plates are probably involved.)
The Catholics are ardent in their capitalistic use of writing and media-forms, I'm sure you can go to more "concrete" online sources than a forum to know all the details and expectations. It might be religion classes you'd have to pay for though; but I doubt it, seemed short and sweet enough to me.
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