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Old 10-05-2017, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Northeastern US
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Originally Posted by pinacled View Post
Hefner took the mark of the beast.

Pretty obvious.
Mass production of pornography.

Think about who provides the printing press. The shelfs to advertise.
And the capital to fund all such operations.

Wake up people.
Playboy was never meant to be an enteprise to bring in monetary gain.

Yeesh.
The mark of the beast = pornography? And this is "obvious"?

And Playboy was a non-profit?

Yeesh indeed.
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Old 10-05-2017, 12:21 PM
 
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The mark of the beast = pornography? And this is "obvious"?

And Playboy was a non-profit?

Yeesh indeed.
Since you are having a difficult time with the Truth of the matter.

I'll cite the Master.
"Thall shall not tempt the Lord thy God."
And to give some insight as to what those who have taken the mark of the beast do, they follow the one whom marked them.
And they boast about it.


Matthew 25:31-46New International Version (NIV)

The Sheep and the Goats
31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.

34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’

37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’

40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’

41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’

44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’

45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’

46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”
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Old 10-05-2017, 12:35 PM
 
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Ah, ok. Didn't exactly order them to.

It just let its minions know how happy it makes it to see babies get their heads bashed on rocks.

Psalm 137:9 Blessed shall he be who takes your little ones and dashes them against the rock!

What a happily sadistic little godling you worship.
Now....show me where God said to do that.

it's not difficult question.
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Old 10-05-2017, 12:37 PM
 
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But wait a minute, to be fair 'God' did not say that.

Wikipedia says it is a credited to Jeremiah tho it says David said it...and it is regarding Babylonion infants...the enemy.
Christians would not be obligated to 'want that' any longer, as Jesus' new commandment was love and forgiveness...not to cast any stones, etc.

Just as 'God' did not say He wanted blood sacrifices...that was a Hebrew 'made up concept'...God
said a few times he did NOT want these sacrifices and burnt offerings...so ya gotta
be careful not to blame God
for made up ideas of men.
My .02.

But, that a Christian would think God WOULD want this is common.
You are correct. God did not command anyone to do that. It was a Psalm-- a song of happy rejoicing because people were happy about being free from an evil oppressing nation. Is that wrong? I don't know....we have people today that pay a "doctor" to do much worse to babies.
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Old 10-05-2017, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA, now.
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The mark of the beast = pornography? And this is "obvious"?
And Playboy was a non-profit?
Yeesh indeed.
You are not having a hard time accepting 'the Truth of the matter', mordie...
pin is not explaining things well.
He gives a quote with no reference...maybe you recognize it as Jesus talking to satan during his temptation in the desert? But, maybe not. But what does it have to do with Hef.

Porn tempts the 'flesh'...no one is tempting the Lord thy God....
And then, there is no 'mark' of any beast anywhere just because a guy is into fleshly pleasures ...
so what does this have to do with Hef...(and
of course, he is making millions).

The posts are not making sense....as in a 'debate', which this looks like.
The 'monitor' would be taking points off of pinacled's clarity of presentation.

Mind you, I'm not on anyone's 'side'....but clarity is on your side here, mordant...belief has nothing to do with it;
apples and oranges are being brought into it.
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Old 10-05-2017, 01:01 PM
 
Location: NSW
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An interesting article from a Catholic perspective:

Is Hugh Hefner in Hell?

Whilst overall condemning Hugh Hefner's lifestyle and legacy (Catholics regard pornography as a "mortal sin"), it leaves open the possibility of Hugh serving his time in "purification", which means Purgatory.
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Old 10-05-2017, 01:30 PM
 
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You are not having a hard time accepting 'the Truth of the matter', mordie...
pin is not explaining things well.
He gives a quote with no reference...maybe you recognize it as Jesus talking to satan during his temptation in the desert? But, maybe not. But what does it have to do with Hef.

Porn tempts the 'flesh'...no one is tempting the Lord thy God....
And then, there is no 'mark' of any beast anywhere just because a guy is into fleshly pleasures ...
so what does this have to do with Hef...(and
of course, he is making millions).

The posts are not making sense....as in a 'debate', which this looks like.
The 'monitor' would be taking points off of pinacled's clarity of presentation.

Mind you, I'm not on anyone's 'side'....but clarity is on your side here, mordant...belief has nothing to do with it;
apples and oranges are being brought into it.
Clarity.

And what were the two commands Yeshua gave?

Simple, if you are tempting your neighbor to break one you are mocking the Love of God.
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Old 10-05-2017, 01:34 PM
 
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You are not having a hard time accepting 'the Truth of the matter', mordie...
pin is not explaining things well.
He gives a quote with no reference...maybe you recognize it as Jesus talking to satan during his temptation in the desert? But, maybe not. But what does it have to do with Hef.

Porn tempts the 'flesh'...no one is tempting the Lord thy God....
And then, there is no 'mark' of any beast anywhere just because a guy is into fleshly pleasures ...
so what does this have to do with Hef...(and
of course, he is making millions).

The posts are not making sense....as in a 'debate', which this looks like.
The 'monitor' would be taking points off of pinacled's clarity of presentation.

Mind you, I'm not on anyone's 'side'....but clarity is on your side here, mordant...belief has nothing to do with it;
apples and oranges are being brought into it.
And just as the Lord told me.

You'd betray me for reputations sake.
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Old 10-05-2017, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA, now.
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Clarity.

And what were the two commands Yeshua gave?

Simple, if you are tempting your neighbor to break one you are mocking the Love of God.
Then say that.....then, explain how this is happening...with no assumptions of your audience...meaning no attitude...just explain things how you view them.

No one is betraying anyone....this is a dialogue.
Take your emotions out of this and simply explain your point clearly.
That doesn't mean someone will agree...but you will be better understood.
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Old 10-05-2017, 01:53 PM
 
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Then say that.....then, explain how this is happening...with no assumptions of your audience...meaning no attitude...just explain things how you view them.

No one is betraying anyone....this is a dialogue.
Take your emotions out of this and simply explain your point clearly.
That doesn't mean someone will agree...but you will be better understood.
It's somewhat like extortion in the spiritual realm of warfare.

For example.
Beware of the scibes.
They are the ones that sit by and wait for the tempter do his work in deceptively sowing a seed of temptation.

So that when a person is burdened down and decieved by a lie they are given A false certificate of divorce.
For a small sum of monetary value of course. The scribes have to make a living of course.
In reality this very certificate is sold and resold to the highest bidder. And so they have no care or love for their neighbor in this regard.
All the while the person who signed the certificate has no idea what has occured.
The deceptive seed the enemy planted as a tare is a poison that brings forth fruits and seeds after it's own kind.
Like a stronghold built over time the weeds(thorns)choke out the Good seed that was planted First.
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