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I was listening to someone talk about Lilith, and they said she was actually Adams first wife, but apparently she argued and fought with Adam too much, as well as something about spending all her time in the company of evil, (not sure what that means or whats being suggested).
They said Adam asked God to take her back, and he did, then formed Eve from his rib, but Lilith was made from the earth, just as Adam was.
She is also mentioned as the mother of all demons, which is somewhat confusing too.
I was listening to someone talk about Lilith, and they said she was actually Adams first wife, but apparently she argued and fought with Adam too much, as well as something about spending all her time in the company of evil, (not sure what that means or whats being suggested).
They said Adam asked God to take her back, and he did, then formed Eve from his rib, but Lilith was made from the earth, just as Adam was.
She is also mentioned as the mother of all demons, which is somewhat confusing too.
Anyone read up on her and know about this?
From a quick read, I have gathered that Lilith is a character described in one of the Jewish "Oral" Books: The Talmud. These sacred Jewish books were written around 300AD but were said to be derived from ancient oral traditions that hadn't been written down (published widely) by the ancient Israelite Kings nor Priests that published the Torah (5 first books of Old Testament) and the full Tanahk (The "full" OT, with poems and prophesies).
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"The character is generally thought to derive in part from a historically far earlier class of female demons (lilītu) in ancient Mesopotamian religion, found in cuneiform texts of Sumer, the Akkadian Empire, Assyria, and Babylonia."
Basically, like a lot of the Jewish religion, the character was borrowed from the cultures they had settled in.
The book of Isaiah compares a lilith to a mystical/uncivilized creature (like a unicorn or satyr) of the forest under the control and order of the Lord of Hosts (hosts=armies).
The Dead Sea Scrolls renders the passage in Isaiah that references "lilith" as pleural (just like the satyrs mentioned).
The King James Version deems her simply a "screech owl" while the ancient Latin deemed her a "lamia" (a female satyr-like monster-thing) and deemed satyrs as simply "hairy ones".
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The Dead Sea Scrolls contain one indisputable reference to Lilith in Songs of the Sage (4Q510–511)[38] fragment 1:
And I, the Instructor, proclaim His glorious splendour so as to frighten and to te[rrify] all the spirits of the destroying angels, spirits of the bastards, demons, Lilith, howlers, and [desert dwellers] ... and those which fall upon men without warning to lead them astray from a spirit of understanding and to make their heart and their ... desolate during the present dominion of wickedness and predetermined time of humiliations for the sons of lig[ht], by the guilt of the ages of [those] smitten by iniquity – not for eternal destruction, [bu]t for an era of humiliation for transgression.[39]
Photographic reproduction of the Great Isaiah Scroll, which contains a reference to plural liliyyot
As with the Massoretic Text of Isaiah 34:14, and therefore unlike the plural liliyyot (or liliyyoth) in the Isaiah scroll 34:14, lilit in 4Q510 is singular, this liturgical text both cautions against the presence of supernatural malevolence and assumes familiarity with Lilith; distinct from the biblical text, however, this passage does not function under any socio-political agenda, but instead serves in the same capacity as An Exorcism (4Q560) and Songs to Disperse Demons (11Q11).[citation needed] The text is thus, to a community "deeply involved in the realm of demonology",[40] an exorcism hymn.
Lilith is basically like a buggie-man(lady?) succubus. They said that since Adam didn't "have children like him" (Seth, the 3rd child) until 130 years of banishment from Eden, then he was wed to Lilith the demoness (who had to come from somewhere and why not dust just like Adam). Of course, Eve just meant "life" and Adam just means "man". Lilith as a name could just have meant "night" or "spirit/wind."
From a quick read, I have gathered that Lilith is a character described in one of the Jewish "Oral" Books: The Talmud. These sacred Jewish books were written around 300AD but were said to be derived from ancient oral traditions that hadn't been written down (published widely) by the ancient Israelite Kings nor Priests that published the Torah (5 first books of Old Testament) and the full Tanahk (The "full" OT, with poems and prophesies).
Basically, like a lot of the Jewish religion, the character was borrowed from the cultures they had settled in.
The book of Isaiah compares a lilith to a mystical/uncivilized creature (like a unicorn or satyr) of the forest under the control and order of the Lord of Hosts (hosts=armies).
The Dead Sea Scrolls renders the passage in Isaiah that references "lilith" as pleural (just like the satyrs mentioned).
The King James Version deems her simply a "screech owl" while the ancient Latin deemed her a "lamia" (a female satyr-like monster-thing) and deemed satyrs as simply "hairy ones".
Lilith is basically like a buggie-man(lady?) succubus. They said that since Adam didn't "have children like him" (Seth, the 3rd child) until 130 years of banishment from Eden, then he was wed to Lilith the demoness (who had to come from somewhere and why not dust just like Adam). Of course, Eve just meant "life" and Adam just means "man". Lilith as a name could just have meant "night" or "spirit/wind."
I was listening to someone talk about Lilith, and they said she was actually Adams first wife, but apparently she argued and fought with Adam too much, as well as something about spending all her time in the company of evil, (not sure what that means or whats being suggested).
They said Adam asked God to take her back, and he did, then formed Eve from his rib, but Lilith was made from the earth, just as Adam was.
She is also mentioned as the mother of all demons, which is somewhat confusing too.
Anyone read up on her and know about this?
While there is a later Jewish legend of Lilith being Adam's first wife, Lilith is a Mesopotamian she-demon who appears in Isaiah 34:13-5 along with other demons such as the mythical satyr. In most English translations Lilith is usually referred to as 'the night hag,' 'the night creatures,' 'the night monster,' 'the screech owl,' 'the night birds,' 'creatures of the night,' 'nocturnal animals,' depending on the Bible translation. The International Standard Version has 'Liliths,' and the Darby Bible has 'the Lilith.' Those various translations can be read at the following site. - Isaiah 34:14 Desert creatures will meet with hyenas, and wild goats will bleat to each other; there the night creatures will also lie down and find for themselves places of rest.
The Masoretic Text, which the Jews refer to as the Tanakh, reads, 'the Lilith.'
Isaiah 34:14 And martens shall meet cats, and a satyr shall call his friend, but there the lilith rests and has found for herself a resting place.
Among the Dead Sea Scrolls, the Great Isaiah Scroll reads as 'Liliths';
Isaiah 34:14 Desert cats will meet hyenas, and goat-demons will call to each other. There too, liliths will settle, and they will find themselves a place of rest.
I was listening to someone talk about Lilith, and they said she was actually Adams first wife, but apparently she argued and fought with Adam too much, as well as something about spending all her time in the company of evil, (not sure what that means or whats being suggested).
They said Adam asked God to take her back, and he did, then formed Eve from his rib, but Lilith was made from the earth, just as Adam was.
She is also mentioned as the mother of all demons, which is somewhat confusing too.
Anyone read up on her and know about this?
it's a myth. Nothing in the Bible to say that. That has no business being taught in any church.
by the way, the Isaiah 34:14 reference to "lilit" has 2 classes of explanation -- Rashi says "a sheid" meaning a ghost or spirit (though one of the others says "the mother of all the spirits" while the Ibn Ezra says "a bird of the night."
Where?
In the Bibles I've read, "son of man" is spelled the same as "son of Adam," and the word by itself is used to describe "humanity" because it simply means "Man" (both in the sense of human-kind and of a single person).
Adamah means "earth" and Adam would mean sort of like "earthling."
The only mention of red I've heard of is from the book of Mormon saying that Native Americans (the "red skins") were a tribe from Israel who were cursed with red skin because they were mean to the "ancient pre-historic" white skin Jew-Americans that they "sadly" got rid of through war, etc.
It might have originated from the Hebrew 'adam (to be colored red), or from Akkadian "adamu" (to create/make), but at the cultural context of when it was made (circa 4th century BCE), it was taken to just mean "man"; and is used as such through the Torah/Pentateuch, where it is only mentioned as the name of a specific man in Genesis (the first man being only mentioned in Genesis).
More likely, it could be a play-on-words on all of these close-by cultural lingos and uses.
it's a myth. Nothing in the Bible to say that. That has no business being taught in any church.
How was the (many versions of the) idol (a picture is worth a thousand words and vice-versa) created? Answer: in a very similar manner to how the Talmud was: with support from a public base and a push from a publisher.
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