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"I’m asking you why you seem to be saying that God deemed it necessary for..."
Well, I'll try one more time. Here's what you said:
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Originally Posted by jonesg
If you had direct undeniable proof of God, whatever the proof is that you could wish for, could you continue to believe God does not exist?.
To be free you have to retain the reasonable ability to deny. There will always be sufficient evidence to decide either way. But never proof.
You have said that one must have the ability/freedom to deny the existence of God. You know this to be true, how? How have you determined that one MUST have this ability?
Well, I'll try one more time. Here's what you said:
You have said that one must have the ability/freedom to deny the existence of God. You know this to be true, how? How have you determined that one MUST have this ability?
I know by logic .
To be free,
no freedom no free choice.
What on earth is so hard to grasp here.?
The Muslims believe they are slaves to God.
Its not a mistake that Muslims don't hold the concept that 'God is love.'
The slave is not free to choose.
You can't make someone love you.
Maybe thats what God is after.
The same way people swallow any lie, they listen to their stupid ego instead of God.
I'm assuming ego would play a part in conclusions as well. Is what you are saying is, despite your conclusions that there is a God, you could willfully decide that there isn't sufficient evidence to support something even though you have already concluded that there is sufficient evidence.
Is this one of those paradoxes, wrapped in an enigma, smothered in onions?
I know by logic .
To be free,
no freedom no free choice.
What on earth is so hard to grasp here.?
The Muslims believe they are slaves to God.
Its not a mistake that Muslims don't hold the concept that 'God is love.'
The slave is not free to choose.
You can't make someone love you.
Maybe thats what God is after.
I'm assuming ego would play a part in conclusions as well. Is what you are saying is, despite your conclusions that there is a God, you could willfully decide that there isn't sufficient evidence to support something even though you have already concluded that there is sufficient evidence.
Is this one of those paradoxes, wrapped in an enigma, smothered in onions?
Haha yeh and bbq sauce.
It creeps in very slowly, like the directions for boiling a frog, bring the temp up so slow it goes unnoticed until too late.
In my own experience, NOT something I see in all atheists, ego is a dangerous foe.
I believe Satan is a very old religious word for ego.
When they asked jesus where does evil come from, unlike today's religions ,
he didn't say " the devil made ya do it".
He said from the very heart of man.
My ego hates God, it fears the infinite and is terrified of not having control over my mind.
Poor thing.
It creeps in very slowly, like the directions for boiling a frog, bring the temp up so slow it goes unnoticed until too late.
In my own experience, NOT something I see in all atheists, ego is a dangerous foe.
I believe Satan is a very old religious word for ego.
When they asked jesus where does evil come from, unlike today's religions ,
he didn't say " the devil made ya do it".
He said from the very heart of man.
My ego hates God, it fears the infinite and is terrified of not having control over my mind.
Poor thing.
Why would your ego hate God? I was disappointed by admitting I didn't have enough evidence to make a knowledge claim about there being a sentient creator.
As Rickie - chief philosopher of the Trailer Park Boys might say: "I toad a so."
It's a deep rabbit hole.
You did.
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