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Old 04-08-2018, 09:25 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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But it's almost like they were doing the "dirty work" for the rest of the country.
Next you'll be denying that slavery, segregation, and jim crow never existed in the heavily Christian south.
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Old 04-08-2018, 09:40 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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I have to wonder how many atheists (or anyone else) would be surprised to learn that someone didn't do them some kind of harm, whatever the reason or motive. The only thing stopping the potential criminal being his religious fear of some kind of divine retribution.
This is nonsense. I fear public condemnation, fines and prison terms. The last thing I worried about as a Christian was punishment from god. I was “forgiven”. I’ve been atheist for 2+ years and have not changed my conduct. I do now have far more value for my and others lives. This life is no longer a drop in the sea waiting for eternity, but is a precious limited timespan.
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Old 04-08-2018, 10:52 PM
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Do you think that money causes atheism?

I think it is possible. A human being in his natural state should be working to sustain himself. But if someone is born with wealth or has more than he needs, he would assume that everything just comes easily. So he has no need to depend upon other people. He can make his own world because he has that power. If he had more DEPENDENCE upon the natural world, he would be better able to see the harmony and natural order of things.
Ridiculous! Being wealthy and an atheist does not necessitate not being better able to see the harmony and natural order of things.

I am an atheist, I was not born wealthy nor am I now wealthy.
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Old 04-09-2018, 02:25 AM
 
Location: Germany
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It's sickening the way that intellectuals have such little regard for the religious people who do all the work that sustains them. The planting and gathering in the fields. The building and construction of their homes and workplaces. The building of roads and digging of ditches.
Knock the word 'religious' out of that (it's not required), and you still have a straw man.
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Old 04-09-2018, 02:31 AM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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Yes but debauching, drunkenness, and dilatoriness could stand on their own even if they were the rationale.

Shoot, just being able to sleep in on Sunday morning justifies being an atheist.
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Old 04-09-2018, 02:40 AM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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Knock the word 'religious' out of that (it's not required), and you still have a straw man.
Very good. That does show where the fallacy lies. We all do what we have to do, and we never forget others doing what they do. After all, the ditch digger does the job in a seat in a heated cab in a digger...produced by the designs of the smarter people rather than breaking his back in the pissing rain. And That is more than Christianity ever did for him other than promise him a life of ease after he dies.
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Old 04-09-2018, 03:36 AM
 
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If you are able to argue something out of existence, it's as good as convincing yourself that it doesn't exist.
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Old 04-09-2018, 05:24 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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If you are able to argue something out of existence, it's as good as convincing yourself that it doesn't exist.
Wishing it into existence is irrational.
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Old 04-09-2018, 05:58 AM
 
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Do you think that money causes atheism?

I think it is possible. A human being in his natural state should be working to sustain himself. But if someone is born with wealth or has more than he needs, he would assume that everything just comes easily. So he has no need to depend upon other people. He can make his own world because he has that power. If he had more DEPENDENCE upon the natural world, he would be better able to see the harmony and natural order of things.

Proverbs 30
The Words of Agur

"The words of Agur the son of Jakeh, the oracle.
(7) Two things I asked of You,
Do not refuse me before I die:
Keep deception and lies far from me,
Give me neither poverty nor riches;
Feed me with the food that is my portion,
That I not be full and deny You and say, “Who is the LORD?”
Or that I not be in want and steal,
And profane the name of my God."
The Love of money causes all sorts of problems.
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Old 04-09-2018, 06:00 AM
 
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It's sickening the way that intellectuals have such little regard for the religious people who do all the work that sustains them. The planting and gathering in the fields. The building and construction of their homes and workplaces. The building of roads and digging of ditches.

But this work is not important because it's all being done by superstitious sub-human creatures who don't matter.

Life is pretty easy when you can do whatever you want to do through a phone app. It's like literally speaking your own world into existence.
You mean self proclaimed intellectuals. Real ones believe in God.
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