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Old 07-25-2018, 03:26 AM
 
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You're research into it shows this? Do show and tell.
Look, 3 arks.

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Then we have Ron Wyatts alleged land bridge, which turns out to be 700 meters under water. You can check this yourself using the Google map program (not the internet site).

And this has been the same for over a century, all the evidence for the ark turns out to not be the ark.

As for the Talpiyot Tomb, there are actual history papers showing why this is NOT evidence for Jesus.

Not only does Wikipedia have a list of references, one fact you fail to consider is if the parents of Jesus came from Bethlehem or Nazareth, that is where their family tombs would be, not in Jerusalem.

Another fact is that if the tomb is of Jesus, son of Joseph, then Jesus did not ascend to heaven.
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Old 07-26-2018, 09:13 PM
 
Location: North Pacific
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No, we mean real archaeology, not your Ron Wyatt Arks on Ararat, or (one of) the Jesus tomb debacle.

These are the usual straws believers grasp at that on closer inspection always turn out to be rubbish.
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I'll play. First off, a quote from your link;

Well preserved wood from between 13,100 and 9,600 B.C. Got that?

Let's have a look at when the great flood actually occured;


Now lets look at the geological activity of Mt Ararat.

And yet the ark which is 10,000 years older than the flood itself, survived all those eruptions without being touched.

Oh by the way, don't forget the earth was only created 6,000 years ago, so the ark is older than the earth.

That was about the time the Israelites were in Egypt.

Then we have to account for the other Noah's ark in the foothills of Ararat - you know? Ron Wyatt's one.

In this link one can see the flows from all those recent eruptions;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:A..._version_1.gif
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Huh??? NAMI! Aaaaaahahahaha! You're winding us up right? Having a laugh!
http://www.mountainararattrek.com/ark/arkfraud3b.htm
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Here...


http://www.mountainararattrek.com/ark/arkfraud3b.htm


NAMI is a fraud. There is a discussion on these boards somewhere from a few years back.
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Originally Posted by Harry Diogenes View Post
Look, 3 arks.

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Then we have Ron Wyatts alleged land bridge, which turns out to be 700 meters under water. You can check this yourself using the Google map program (not the internet site).

And this has been the same for over a century, all the evidence for the ark turns out to not be the ark.

As for the Talpiyot Tomb, there are actual history papers showing why this is NOT evidence for Jesus.

Not only does Wikipedia have a list of references, one fact you fail to consider is if the parents of Jesus came from Bethlehem or Nazareth, that is where their family tombs would be, not in Jerusalem.

Another fact is that if the tomb is of Jesus, son of Joseph, then Jesus did not ascend to heaven.
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No, we mean real archaeology,
Raiders of the Faux Ark

October 2007
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... But we don't need to go looking for Noah's Ark to find confirmation of details found in the Bible. During the past century or so, archeologists have found the first mention of Israel outside the Bible, in an Egyptian inscription carved by the pharaoh Merneptah in the year 1207 B.C. They have found mentions of Israelite kings, including Omri, Ahab, and Jehu, in neo-Assyrian inscriptions from the early first millennium B.C. And they have found, most recently, a mention of the House of David in an inscription from northern Israel dating to the ninth century B.C. These are conclusive pieces of evidence that these people and places once existed and that at least parts of the Bible are historically accurate. Perhaps none of these is as attention-getting as finding Noah's Ark, but they serve to deepen our understanding of, and appreciation for, the Bible.
The source site is searchable, if you want to know what they may have found in the last decade ... there it is ... and if you then still feel as though you may have a problem with the evidence and its source ... then you do not as I said, believe in archeology or paleontology ... which is one of first things I said, when I came into this thread ...
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Old 07-27-2018, 01:54 AM
 
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Raiders of the Faux Ark

October 2007
The source site is searchable, if you want to know what they may have found in the last decade ... there it is ... and if you then still feel as though you may have a problem with the evidence and its source ... then you do not as I said, believe in archeology or paleontology ... which is one of first things I said, when I came into this thread ...
Let us look at your misrepresented findings you posted.

"The first mention of Israel outside the Bible, in an Egyptian inscription carved by the pharaoh Merneptah in the year 1207 B.C."

The Merneptah stele mentions a group of people called the I.si.ri.ar. we do not know who these people were, or where they are based because the stele is not specific.

"They have found mentions of Israelite kings, including Omri, Ahab, and Jehu, in neo-Assyrian inscriptions from the early first millennium B.C."

Omri definitely, but the Ahab and Jehu claim are suspect. But these people were written about in the historical part of the Bible, so we would expect to find some reference. But that does not make the whole of the Bible reliable, especially as other findings tell us the biblical accounts were improved a little for political reasons.

"And they have found, most recently, a mention of the House of David in an inscription from northern Israel dating to the ninth century B.C."

The 2 possible findings are also suspect. The Mesha Stele has BT?WD as one word, but we do not know what the middle letter is. We also do not know what the vowels should be, so we do not know to whom or what this refers. The Tel Dan Stele is a little better as we have BYTDWD, but again we do not know the vowels intended.

Even if they do refer to the house of David, that does not mean David was real, he could still be a mythical person from whom others claimed to be descended to make their role as ruler more legitimate.
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