what's it like after death? (Christianity, God, Christian, beliefs)
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Why in the world would anyone credit NDE's? The body is still functioning even if the support system has failed, it's the only reason that getting the support system going again works.
Well, you can see how it works.
The occurrence is real. Not much doubt about that.
The experience is interpreted to be real just as the brain shows it.
It is taken as an experience that is as it appears to be. Unreliable human experiences are forgotten and mental experiences of the divine are taken as reliable while any counter -explanations are dismissed on the grounds of skeptic bias.
Suggestions that we wait and see are also brushed aside and it is insisted that it be taken as life - changing hard evidence for a heavenly afterlife, Right Now. If there are any similar experiences that have Chinese ancestors or elephant -headed gods, you won't hear much about those except perhaps as delusions and mockeries of the real thing by Satan.
That, old mate, is how it works. Frame it and hang it on your wall.
"Top 3 occult texts"? Why? What for? Are you suggesting there are none? Are you asking because you dont think I know, but you do?
So tell us more.
Let's try this again.
You made this statement.
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Originally Posted by ocpaul20
There are many occult texts which describe the conditions where the physical spirit goes after life.
I would like to know the names of the top 3 occult text. Why not just answer what I asked vs. not answering and then proceeding to ascribe things to me that I did not state or imply?
I said to a friend "I wonder what it's like after you die?" He said "What was it like before you were born?"
Very well said by your friend because Adam went from non-life, to life, and returned back to non-life - Gen. 3:19
A person can Not ' return ' to a place he never was before, so Adam returned to where he started the dust of the ground.
Jesus did Not have to wonder what it's like after death because Jesus taught ' sleep ' in death at John 11:11-14.
Jesus was well educated in the old Hebrew Scriptures which also teach ' sleep ' in death as per Psalms 6:5; 13:3; 115:17; 146:4.
Also, King Solomon, known for having wisdom, wrote the dead know nothing at Ecclesiastes 9:5.
And, just as there was No post-mortem penalty for Adam there is No post-mortem penalty for anyone else.
IMO, Nobody actually “knows” the answer because nobody (whether believer, Atheist or agnostic) has died and came back to tell us what it’s like.............
So who knows if he also existed in some form and somewhere BEFORE he was born,......
I find Jesus was a spirit creation in Heaven before his God sent the pre-human Jesus to be born on Earth.
On the other hand, Adam ( man ) was formed from the dust of the ground and returned to it - Gen.3:19.
Since Jesus was in Heaven before coming to Earth then Jesus knew what it is like to be dead.
Jesus taught us what is like to be dead at John 11:11-14 that the dead are in a sleep-like state.
That agrees with the Psalms 6:6; 13:3; 115:17; 146:4 that the dead are sleeping.
Even the word cemetery means: sleeping place and Not torture place.
King Solomon wrote at Ecclesiastes 9:5 that the dead know nothing.
So, the dead know nothing, nothing but sleep.
One thing I think we can all agree on, in the afterlife, there will be NO time...I think this is very significant too. Whenever people talk about death, heaven or hell, they use the word 'eternity' and equate that with being a REALLY LONG time, like a trillion years or more, example, those who go to hell will be there for eternity...
...but if there is NO time in the afterlife, 'eternity' would not feel like a trillion years and it wouldnt feel like 2 seconds...it would be something totally different, the more I think about it, I doubt anyone that is alive can comprehend an existence where there is literally no time.
One thing I think we can all agree on, in the afterlife, there will be NO time...I think this is very significant too. Whenever people talk about death, heaven or hell, they use the word 'eternity' and equate that with being a REALLY LONG time, like a trillion years or more, example, those who go to hell will be there for eternity...
...but if there is NO time in the afterlife, 'eternity' would not feel like a trillion years and it wouldnt feel like 2 seconds...it would be something totally different, the more I think about it, I doubt anyone that is alive can comprehend an existence where there is literally no time.
No time, eh? Will we all just be frozen in place? How am I supposed to strum a harp when I’m frozen in place?
No time, eh? Will we all just be frozen in place? How am I supposed to strum a harp when I’m frozen in place?
As far as time we can count time both forwards and backwards forever or everlastingly.
No harp strumming job for those called to heaven as per Revelation 5:9-10.
They have two (2) jobs to do. They serve as both kings and priests.
As kings they will take care of governmental responsibilities toward people living on Earth.
As priests they will take care of spiritual duties towards people living on Earth.
Those people are the humble meek people who inherit the Earth as Jesus promised - Matt. 5:5; Psalm 37:9-11.
One thing I think we can all agree on, in the afterlife, there will be NO time...I think this is very significant too. Whenever people talk about death, heaven or hell, they use the word 'eternity' and equate that with being a REALLY LONG time, like a trillion years or more, example, those who go to hell will be there for eternity...
...but if there is NO time in the afterlife, 'eternity' would not feel like a trillion years and it wouldnt feel like 2 seconds...it would be something totally different, the more I think about it, I doubt anyone that is alive can comprehend an existence where there is literally no time.
I find the word ' afterlife ' indicates that a person is more alive after death then before death.
Whereas the instead of afterlife what the Bible really teaches is a future resurrection.
That is why the future tense is used at Acts 24:15 that there ' is going to be ' a resurrection....
False religion teaches hell for eternity but biblically speaking hell is mankind's temporary grave.
Even righteous Jesus on the day he died went to biblical hell as per Acts 2:27.
If biblical hell was eternal then Jesus would still be in hell.
Rather, the Bible's hell ( temporary grave ) comes to a final end according to Revelation 20:13-14.
After everyone in hell is ' delivered up' ( meaning resurrected out of hell ) then, emptied-out hell is cast vacant into that symbolic ' second death ' for vacated hell. Then ' enemy death ' will be No more as per 1st Corinthians 15:26; Isaiah 25:8
Before you were conceived, you did not exist. After you die you will no longer exist. Do you see any correlation here?
The correlation I see is that Adam did Not exist before God breathed the ' breath of life ' into life-less Adam - Gen. 2:7.
Once Adam died Adam ' returned ' back to the dust of the ground - Gen. 3:19.
A person can Not ' return ' to a place he never was before so Adam returned back to non-life, non-existence.
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