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I gather that Mitochondrial and X -chromosomal are the same. I recall that the vid. I posted started with where the Mitochondrial element fitted in.
And I believe... that the diagram implied that, if there Had been two 'Eves' that had daughters to pass on the X- Chromosome, you'd. just be able to trace back further to an even earlier one that was the one that had daughters.
No, Mitochondrial and X-Chromosomal are not the same, X-chromosomes can come from the father as well. Mitochondria are separate energy-producing organelles in cells. They have their own DNA(s) separate from the chromosomes which are located in the DNA-warehousing nucleus of the cells.
And yes, that is right. Any "last closest ancestor" would have had parents as well, which means all those "Eve's" and "Adams" would have had mothers and fathers (in our case, ones which were still human/homosapiens).
Yes, indeed. If you only knew it, you are agreeing with us totally. Reality is what it is, and it stays the same no matter what we find out and no matter what we don't.
We agree totally on what it's like. Then you slap the 'God' -label on it and think you've made a point. Fortunately, a mindless claim doesn't take a lot of mind to refute.
lmao. you remove the "god" label and think it makes more sense.
to me, I can only nod my head in slack jaw disbelief. Its actually you are agreeing with him.
he says, actually, that all he is doing is slapping the label on it. But you, with that blurry lensed "atheistic perspective" need to change it.
he says exactly, it doesn't matter what we say, its all the universe. He made it clear he wasn't worried about three letters g, o, and d.
lmao, and you take claim to some victory. lmao.
its more like you change what he means and then claim victory.
"content" is content. atheist perspective is just another lense to distort reality. lmao, remove that lense and it clears up.
Religion is an attempt to define one’s relationship with that which one understands as a higher power or a supernatural state. Members of each religion rely upon inspired scribes who can only write down what they understand or comprehend, thus are limited by their own language, experience and knowledge. I filter all religious writing by remembering that the inspired scribes are attempting to document experiences, supernatural or metaphysical, which may not have a correlation to the material world. If their metaphors are misunderstood, it’s due to the limitation of language and not the spiritual revelation itself.
Correct. And while the definition is fair enough, we don't by any means all agree is what is sound judgement in anything. Too often it becomes personal preferences backed up with specious apologetics. That's even without the Pointy -eared logic problem. The logical solution to a practical problem may very well be trumped by a less logical approach that accords better with our ethical sense.
the problem arises when a perspective (atheist/theist) needs to be maintained over content driven perspectives. its so true that people with perspectives not based on content, but rather personal need, must ignore more valid perspectives based on content.
personal perspectives are usually debunked, rather easily, by content driven perspectives.
We are perhaps talking religious faith here that pertains to having a belief in the existence of God.
IMO, Atheists tend to lose the debate if we go by the standard meaning of “faith” as defined by the professionally trained and certified linguistic specialists in the dictionary.
So Atheists must reject the dictionary and come up with their own meanings of the word “faith” in order to take shelter under a false premise. Yes, they can do that if that helps them - which is frankly, laughable.
We are perhaps talking religious faith here that pertains to having a belief in the existence of God.
Perhaps, in which case they'd be begging the question ("Religion doesn't make sense because it requires religious belief").
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IMO, Atheists tend to lose the debate if we go by the standard meaning of “faith” as defined by the professionally trained and certified linguistic specialists in the dictionary.
So Atheists must reject the dictionary and come up with their own meanings of the word “faith” in order to take shelter under a false premise. Yes, they can do that if that helps them - which is frankly, laughable.
As an atheist but one who frequently defends religious belief, I'm quite willing to accept the definition that anti-theists typically offer - namely "belief without evidence". Because it only gets them in more trouble, as evidentialism is pretty much bankrupt.
Perhaps, in which case they'd be begging the question ("Religion doesn't make sense because it requires religious belief").
As an atheist but one who frequently defends religious belief, I'm quite willing to accept the definition that anti-theists typically offer - namely "belief without evidence". Because it only gets them in more trouble, as evidentialism is pretty much bankrupt.
hey, me too!!!! I thought you were a believer in religious type god. ... my bad.
I will not "just get out of the way of militant atheist" either. an atheist actually told me "although valid we shouldn't talk about that science because it give theist something to use and makes atheism harder to sell"
that's when i knew this fight was about something different that figuring out how the universe works.
lamo, I couldn't believe they jumped on me, mocked me, then finally shunned me for saying "what? thats crazy? I won't let you by and hurt people based on that philosophy.". they also did the "its you being uncooperative" you not understanding", "its you misquoting us." type stuff. ... the usual stuff.
lmao, yeah uncorpatrivite in letting a less valid philosophy rule the day. yeah, I am damn proud of being like that.
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Ok. I have Something to learn.
